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registry question about giving PCGS # to EBAY bidders


I have a 1967 SMS MS67 DCAM Washington Quarter for sale on ebay and someone wanted to have the PCGS # so they can verify the coin. This just came back and I purposely put the picture small so the successful winner will be able to register this coin and not have someone else use this # as I have read about this happening before. How do I tactfully address this? Any help would be of greatfully appreciated.

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Sometimes I use giant images without the slab because, as far as I'm concerned, the plastic just gets in the way of the coin. If somebody eMails me and asks for the cert number for the coin, I just give it to them. It's no big deal.

    Edited to add: Of course, since I use the cert number for the file name, all the bidder really has to do is check the image properties.

    Russ, NCNE


  • RUSS, A big thanks. John
  • dldallendldallen Posts: 359 ✭✭
    I place just a picture of the coin along with the PCGS Logo that lets folks check the cert # thru the eBay/PCGS link. If they have the status bar open in their browser they don't even have to click the logo to get the cert #.

    My feelings are that if someone is going to steal a cert #, then PCGS can simply verify it like they do others and pull it from the imposter set so the true owner can add it. Life's too short to worry about the simple stuff!

    Personally, I like to have the cert #, mainly just in case something happened in transit and to verify that I receive the item I purchased. Lack of it doesn't stop me and if I insure it, the onus is on the seller to file for restitution. I might be out for a while but stuff happens. My thoughts anyway. Dave


  • THANKS DAVE!
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the boards.

    I give the cert number in the text of all my auctions. I have an MS67 AR-D going now where that is all I have since the coin has yet to arrive from PCGS.
    Give Blood (Red Bags) & Platelets (Yellow Bags)!
  • PeetiePeetie Posts: 627 ✭✭
  • PeetiePeetie Posts: 627 ✭✭
    Sorry should have been a PM
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    If you're afraid of someone stealing the cert number, then start a registry set and enter any coins you have for sale in it. Once you sell the coin, remove it from the set.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • I think you all know where I stand on this one. But for the originator of this thread, all the comments above mine are perfect. One way is to register it in a set until you sell it. Also, even if someone hijacked the number, all the new owner has to do is send an e-mail to PCGS saying they just bought this coin & please get it released from the previous (or current) registry set. The link for that e-mail address automatically pops up after an unsuccessful attempt at registering it so you don't have to hunt for it. 9 times out of 10, that's all that is needed in those instances. Sometimes PCGS will want you to send a scan to prove it's in your possession. But of course, if you kept it registered until selling it, this potential hassle for the buyer goes away.
    For future reference, keep in mind that the reasons many potential buyers like to get the cert # BEFORE paying is so they can verify that the coin is reported accurately in the PCGS database (I've bought some that wern't) AND to make sure it's not registered to someone else just to avoid the hassle of getting PCGS to get it released for you - discussed above - (I've bought some that were) AND to verify that the seller actually has the coin he says he does. A fourth possible reason (FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION TO THE ONLINE POP REPORT - pm me if you want this one explained) is to verify the most current pops. In short, there is NO LOGICAL reason for witholding the cert number from potential purchasers UNLESS you want to reduce the number of potential purchasers.
  • We promptly exile number thiefs. It has happened before.
    Merc collector.
  • Normally I ask the PCGS # after the payment to include the coin in my set before shipment, mostly if the seller is a dealer, not for any circumstance of non-confidence (all the dealers that I had business before are fully trustable), but just because they normally don’t have control of the slab numbers.
    This procedure avoids the risk of an eventual misleading during the “trip” and allowed a communication to PCGS to be alert to possible attempts of registration of that coin.

    It’s good for the seller also. Imagine a coin of $10 K or more disappearing in the middle of a shipment and nobody knows the number. The insurance company for sure will be happy if the notification content “a package contends one coin type x slabed under number……”. At least the insured will be prove “that” coin exists and for consequence the market value.

    If someone in the forum works with insurance business, please give your thoughts.

    Safety procedures and fresh water never hurt nobody.

    Edson
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