1967 Topps Baseball # 12 Ranked Registry Set For Sale

thesplendidsplinter · July 28, 2003 4:08PM

Hey everyone, need to sell my # 12 ranked registry set all in 7's & 8's NQ. There are also 2 9's. It is under the title The Splendid Splinter's 1967 Set. There are 303 cards and a few doubles. Many high numbers in 8's & many low pops. This set has so much room to grow.

$7,000.00 firm, priced right at SMR

Send me an email at thesplendidsplinter@cox.net

Thanks for looking

acowa · July 28, 2003 9:54PM

Ted,

Call or email me.

Regards,

Alan

Vargha · July 28, 2003 10:53PM

Isn't a set from the 60's with predominantly7's and 8's a tad overpriced at straight SMR?

Basilone · July 28, 2003 11:31PM

I guess it depends on how many "low pop" 8's are included in the set. I am not a 67 expert so I couldnt really tell from looking at the set.

John

acowa · July 29, 2003 12:10AM

Dave,

It depends if you're buying it as a collector or dealer. Assuming that you pay $3/card in shipping (maybe more with insurance)...it's probably a decent way for someone to start a 1967 set. I don't consider this deal a price gouge by any stretch. Is there 20-30% margin for a dealer to flip the set? Probably not.

Regards,

Alan

carew4me · July 29, 2003 12:13AM

It is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay.

Vargha · July 29, 2003 1:08AM

Agreed, carew. But you know what I meant.

BigKidAtHeart · July 29, 2003 1:31AM

Dave, I think I see where you are going...

$7000 DIVIDED BY 303 cards EQUALS $23.10 per card

if you Subtract $3 for shipping on each card... it is approx.
$20 Per Card which is about SMR averare for PSA 8
but seems a bit on the High side for PSA 7.

acowa · July 29, 2003 2:05AM

Good God BKAH! This set has Kaline, Maris, Stargell, Carlton, Aparicio, Frank Robinson, Aaron, a bunch of leader cards, Yaz, Hunter, Clemente, Niekro, Palmer, Norm Cash high number, Belanger Rookie, Colavito, Red Sox Team, ALL IN PSA 8 and a Giants Team in PSA 9. (and Mantle in PSA 7)

I am floored by your in depth analysis.

Is the price high?...compared to what??? The lot of 1967 cards that sold in Superiors garnered the highest % relative to SMR of most any lot sold. Most dealers pay around 70% of SMR. Somewhere between 70-100% is fair market. The more time you can spend breaking it up...the closer to 100% you should achieve.

Regards,

Alan

ejguru · July 29, 2003 2:52AM

As someone who knows a little (very little) about the 67 set, I'll say SMR is not exactly the best reference point. Also, considering that 1/4 to 1/3 of this set used to be mine, I know these were modern graded cards with few sliders if any. In fact, I'd like to think there are a lot of screwballs here--cards where the submitter got screwed on cards that could easily have been 8's (Grader of Death in effect). The price is not cheap, but as Alan pointed out--there are all those superstars in 8. Good luck (and may the G.O.D. be on vacation when I resubmit 2 cards).

Basilone · July 29, 2003 3:17AM

In my experience I have found that it is pretty easy to find 60's superstars for under SMR.

John

Vargha · July 29, 2003 3:46AM

Geez everyone! Let's not get so uptight. We'll see what happens. My prediction is that it won't garner SMR as a whole and may be better off being broken up for individual sale, with the remainder being auctioned as a group.

acowa · July 29, 2003 4:02AM

David,

My backsides so tight that I can't pass gas. But enough about my personal problems.

I don't disagree that most people aren't going to pay full SMR for the entire lot.

My point was that coming up with an average price per card was a bunch of hooey.

I would submit to you that if the superstars that I noted were high end, that SMR is not out of the question (lot or no lot). I personally spoke with a dealer who paid well over SMR to Levi for a 1960's superstar that he needed for a set.

My second point is: Most people haven't seen the cards...and it would appear from some of the posts that some people replying don't even know what's included in the lot.

Make sense? Hope this clears things up.

Regards,

Alan

Vargha · July 29, 2003 4:20AM

Alan, ufortunately in my family, passing gas is no problem whatsoever. My 11 year old daughter thinks it is one of the funniest things around.

acowa · July 29, 2003 4:22AM

David,

If it's not the funniest...it's right up near the top. (unless you are in my situation and then it slips down the list a little bit)

Regards,

Alan

Basilone · July 29, 2003 4:47AM

<< <i>). I personally spoke with a dealer who paid well over SMR to Levi for a 1960's superstar that he needed for a set. >>

Which card? I do not want the buyers name...just the name of the card. Also....what grade was it in...that factors in as well.

John

acowa · July 29, 2003 5:21AM

I believe he said it was a 1966 Mantle 8.

If you're buying from Levi...you're not looking to spend a % of SMR...you're looking at 100 plus a %.

Regards,

Alan

Basilone · July 29, 2003 5:30AM

I was thinking it may have been a 1966 Topps Willie Mays #1. The SMR for the Mantle is only $500....that seems pretty low...since the 1965 Mantle SMRs for $1k.

John

cardbroad · July 29, 2003 7:22AM

Why the hostility towards a collector trying to get SMR on a collection of cards? When you guys sell cards wouldn't you at least try to get the same kinda price. Just because you don't want to buy doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to somebody else. It doesn't seem like an unreasonable price if it's what you want and don't want to go to the hassle of buying 303 Ebay lots with $1000 in shipping and hopefuly no ripoffs. How much could you really save putting it together a card at a time? What would make everybody happy...The guy coming on here and asking for a % of raw Beckett high column. Sharks!

acowa · July 29, 2003 7:49AM

Cardbroad,

Nail, head, hammer.

BTW-Will you marry me?

Regards,

Alan

Wabittwax · July 29, 2003 7:55AM

Speaking of the Grader of Death, has anybody got hit by him lately? I haven't got one from him in about 6 months and I haven't seen the normal grumblings lately. Hopefully either PSA fired him or had a sit down talk with him (or her). I know he existed at some point because all of us would get that one batch back that was obviously way off base but it doesn't seem to be happening any more. If that's the case, then it means that there are a lot of PSA graded cards out there that are suitable for resubmission.

Virtualizard · July 29, 2003 8:11AM

If I had $7,000 available right now, I'd buy it. No problem. No questions asked. $23.10 per card (as BKAH points out) for a lot including all of those high grade stars ... Great deal.

I also agree that it would end up saving $500 - $1000 on s&h over the long haul if you bought these cards one at a time.

Ted, would you be willing to agree to a payment plan of say $50/month for 140 months?

JEB.

gaspipe26 · July 29, 2003 8:25AM

I bought the 2 1964 lots from Superior and that was all 8's. It included a bunch of stars including Koufax,Clememte and others. I paid 62% of SMR at an average cost of about $29 per card. I dont know much about 67's but deduct the stars SMR and come up with a price per card for the commons.

thesplendidsplinter · July 29, 2003 8:27AM

Cardbroad, thanks for saying it for me.

Virtual, the best I can do is $75 a month for 93 months & 2 weeks.

1/2 of one of the best baseball sets in history is not a bad item.

Eric & Alan, thanks for the good words. As Eric said, many of them are undergraded. The Yaz is without a doubt a strong 9. Someone will be very pleased with the cards.

Thanks

mikeschmidt · July 29, 2003 9:17PM

Steve:

I've been overall happy with my grades lately -- even on the crossover service. I often think that the 1955 Bowman set is always assigned to the grader of death -- but I just tend to think it is a tough set graded very conservatively (and fairly consistently). Myself, Davalillo, Zardoz and numerous others have all missed expectations on some of our 1955 Bowman baseball submissions. Oh well -- makes it more fun to find the elusive 8s, I guess.

1967 Topps Baseball # 12 Ranked Registry Set For Sale

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