Anybody know what this giant penny is that I bought today?

Russ · July 27, 2003 4:11AM

It's about the same size as a half dollar:

Anybody have any idea what it is? I just thought it looked cool. The dealer said it was very rare, so he was firm on the price - no negotiating. I hope I didn't pull a Barney.

Russ, NCNE

cherrypickincoin · July 27, 2003 4:14AM

Well it's british and it says 1912 on it, that's about all I know about that.

Barry · July 27, 2003 4:15AM

It's the accented helmet variety - very rare!

Russ · July 27, 2003 4:15AM

I thought it might be British - looking at the "britt" above the portrait, but I wasn't sure.

Russ, NCNE

clw54 · July 27, 2003 4:15AM

Don't know what it is, but it's kinda cool.

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 4:16AM

"H" for Heaton mint NICE FIND!

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 4:17AM

With "H"

EF = £65
UNC = 150

No "H"

EF = £10
UNC = £30

cherrypickincoin · July 27, 2003 4:19AM

And 65 UK pounds is what..$100 american?

satootoko · July 27, 2003 4:22AM

<< The dealer said it was very rare, so he was firm on the price - no negotiating. I hope I didn't pull a Barney. >>

Depends on what you paid. KM#810, bronze, mintage 48,306,000 w/o mint mark, 16,800,000 w/H (Heaton). I don't collect British copper, so I'm not sure where the mint mark should be , but I think yours is from Heaton - that looks like an "H" to the left of the date. The Heaton mintage is the 4th smallest of the series, which has 18 coins plus 1 proof, from 1911-26 (zero mintage in 1923-25). Catalog is $18 XF, $75 Unc.

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 4:22AM

$105.27

Russ · July 27, 2003 4:24AM

Yeah, it does have an H. Didn't even notice until Cosmic pointed it out.

Russ, NCNE

tbirde56 · July 27, 2003 4:33AM

It looks like it's in Fine condition. VF at most would be a stretch. 2003 Krause says $1 F, $3 VF, $18 XF, $75 U. This Great Britain penny is NOT rare in this condition as 16.8 million were minted.

stujoe · July 27, 2003 4:38AM

Kind of looks like Sigmund Freud is leering at that nice lady sitting in the wheelchair. Are you sure it isn't one of those 3 inch coin coasters? Looks like it would hold my coffee mug pretty good.

pontiacinf · July 27, 2003 4:43AM

i have quite a few of these in various dates someone stuck in a batch off ebay I bought...guess ill have ta check em out.

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 4:44AM

Here is what you want in a 101 year old penny

thepunkrockcoinguy · July 27, 2003 5:23AM

So how much did you pay for it? We are all eager to know!

1jester · July 27, 2003 5:26AM

Cosmic, don't be so cruel!! We should all encourage Russ for stepping further down the slippery slope of the Darkside!! Besides, the penny, which I would grade as VF, is at least rarer than the normal, no date version.

Russ, I'm glad to see you finally heeded the Call of the Dark!

Feel free to step on over anytime; we're a friendly and supportive bunch, and we'll be more than glad to assist you in going Dark.

tbirde56 · July 27, 2003 5:44AM

I'd say it would be 'scarcer', rather than 'rarer', than the 48 million plain 1912 penny.

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 5:46AM

No cruel intentions at all.

1jester · July 27, 2003 5:46AM

Point taken, Tbirde.

Also, I agree with you that the coin is a weak VF.

Still, NICE COIN, RUSS!!!!!

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 5:50AM

Russ has to be pulling a fast one on you all. I went through the Darkside junk cup and found 8 1912 Pennies. If Russ posted this, and I have 8 of them Russ is up to something...

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 5:53AM

And it looks like 3 of them have "H"s.

Russ · July 27, 2003 6:00AM

Gee, Marty, I post a coin that will force me to eat mac and cheese for a week because of what I spent and all you can do is make fun of me.

Russ, NCNE

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 6:03AM

I think Russ is pulling out pennies!!! I bought the whole set of Pennies in the UK last year for 2 pounds! (A little over 3 bucks!) I thought they were interesting. In another hour we will get a:

Bawhahahahahaha

out of Russ, because he got all this attention from the Darksiders over a stinkin' UK Penny!

jeffnpcb · July 27, 2003 6:09AM

Nice looking cent, I gyess you be moving over to the "other" forum later. It was good chatting with you. I heard that it was a dark hole and most never rise out of it!!

PS, How close are you to the track!! Watching the finals right now on ESPN!! That round track crap was making me a little ill!! A little Nitro may tone that thing out a bit!

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 6:17AM

Hmmmm! Could be! I'll bet he only paid a $1.00 for that coin.

my3cents · July 27, 2003 6:25AM

I have a couple of those in 1898 VF20 and a few more post 1900. What will you give me for them Russ? They are rare indeed - I only have 3 or 4 of them....

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 6:27AM

How much are you paying for them Russ? I have a few (dozen) I can sell you!

1jester · July 27, 2003 6:32AM

No doubt Russ IS trying to pull one over on us!!

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 7:18AM

Well Russ, tell us what this thread was really about???

KlectorKid · July 27, 2003 7:22AM

Russ is currently taking his 1 hour a day break from the forums.

Russ · July 27, 2003 7:26AM

<< Well Russ, tell us what this thread was really about??? >>

It's about fun.

Russ, NCNE

mdwoods · July 27, 2003 7:26AM

Hmmmm, I have a whole bunch of very rare pennies that I will sell you. Comes with a title to a nice bridge too!!

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 8:35AM

I was really hoping you found a penny worth $20-$30! Since I have 4 of the H mint marks! You just wanted to see my run for the Darkside junk cup!

GAT · July 27, 2003 9:14AM

All joking aside, during my tour in England with the USAF from 1951-1954 this was a modern coin. I was always amazed to receive 50-100 year old coins in daily change.

Askari · July 27, 2003 9:40AM

<< Hmmmm! Could be! I'll bet he only paid a $1.00 for that coin. >>

Hmmm, Russ spending a Dollar for a Penny? Wonder what he'd spend for a Half!

Welcome to the Darkness, Russ!! Plenty more where those came from!

Russ · July 27, 2003 9:51AM

<< Hmmmm! Could be! I'll bet he only paid a $1.00 for that coin. >>

Damn! Was one of you guys at the flea market today? Yeah, it cost me a buck. Sometimes I buy cheap weird stuff I know nothing about just because I think it's cool. There was an outside dealer, (my regular guy has a space inside the building), that had a bunch of them. I also bought a 1918.

Russ, NCNE

Coulport · July 27, 2003 9:57AM

If the guy is there next week and still has some Brit pennies, check for 1918 and 1919 with a little KN beside the date.
Buy all you can for $1 each and I'll double your money.

coinkat · July 27, 2003 9:57AM

Russ:

British copper is highly sought after but usually most collectors want them in the same condition as the 1902 1d posted by Cosmic. The rare dates for the George V series are the 1918 KN (Kings Norton)and 1919KN (with exception of course to the 1933 in which 4 or5 I think are known). The KN is in the same location as the H on the 1912 1d that you currently own. I would grade it as a low end VF. The strikes on this series can be very inconsistant. In addition, there are some challenging varieties to get but that can wait for another thread.

cladking · July 27, 2003 10:00AM

<< Nice looking cent, I gyess you be moving over to the "other" forum later. It was good chatting with you. I heard that it was a dark hole and most never rise out of it!!

>>

Well sure. A lot of people who fall into the dark believe that they can see for the
very first time. This forum is becoming so hospitable that perhaps future "fallers"
will be more likely to come back. (even if just for a visit

)

Hey Russ that 1918 wouldn't be a "kn" would it?

coinkat · July 27, 2003 10:04AM

Russ:

Look at the 1918 and look for a KN in the same spot as the H on the 1912... do you feel lucky today?

Russ · July 27, 2003 10:04AM

<< Hey Russ that 1918 wouldn't be a "kn" would it? >>

Nah, the 1918 is a "plain". Next time I'm up there, I'll check what else he has. Since there's only 18 in the series and they're cheap, maybe I'll build a set.

Russ, NCNE

cladking · July 27, 2003 10:11AM

<< 

Nah, the 1918 is a "plain". Next time I'm up there, I'll check what else he has. Since there's only 18 in the series and they're cheap, maybe I'll build a set.

Russ, NCNE >>

The coin was struck since mideviel times in one form or another. It was struck
from 1860 to 1970 in this size and design (except regnal changes). There are
very few mint marks but many varieties and with most all dates.

Most are available for a dollar or two in nice shape and a collection can be fleshed
out for less than $100 in nice F or better.

MacCrimmon · July 27, 2003 10:28AM

Cosmic,

Don't shock the AH lad with them red thingys....besides, it ain't the right King.

<< ....they're cheap, maybe I'll build a set. >>

Then start with 1911, and go forward unto the DARK!!!!!

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 10:37AM

Checked my 1918 and it's an H also.

farthing · July 27, 2003 11:59AM

Marty - The 1918H is no slouch when it comes to value. $2/Fine $20/VF $100/EF $200/UNC

The top 6 English pennies 1901-1967 are: 1926 Modified Effigy, 1919KN, 1918KN, 1918H, 1919H and 1912H

JLW · July 27, 2003 12:54PM

<< Kind of looks like Sigmund Freud is leering at that nice lady sitting in the wheelchair. Are you sure it isn't one of those 3 inch coin coasters? Looks like it would hold my coffee mug pretty good. >>

Stujoe,
If my British Nana were still alive, I believe she would give you a "trouncing" (that's British for ass-whooping) for that comment!
Joe

Fountainhead · July 27, 2003 1:06PM

Try using kilo Kookabaras. They make great coasters! Just don't play "quarters" with them.....

cosmicdebris · July 27, 2003 7:24PM

Plaidboy what's wrong with my King?

MadMarty · July 27, 2003 10:01PM

<< Since there's only 18 in the series and they're cheap, maybe I'll build a set. >>

Hey Russ, I'll sell you one of my sets! I have 2 done and #3 one or two coins away!

MacCrimmon · July 28, 2003 12:45AM

<< Plaidboy what's wrong with my King? >>

Nothing! He's just not George V!!

I like "RED" Kings!

Anybody know what this giant penny is that I bought today?

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