Damm, can't retract my bid because less than 12 hrs to close

sinin1

was going through my eBay page seeing what bids need bumped up and what items I am currently high bidder on -

looked at one and thought, damm why did I bid so much

I go to the bid retraction page - try to retract because entered wrong amt - no dice

tried to retract because seller changed info - no dice


decided I would ask a seller a question, sent it off to clarify my concerns, and maybe it would be okay and I would want item - 5 minutes later my email gives me a fatal error on email delivery to their address

I try to retract bid because can not contact seller - no dice - less than 12 hours to close


so now I am hoping some bigger sucker bids higher, I am do not have to end up with something I do not want -



If auction ends, how would you handle it? eat it, see if seller will let you buy out cheaply, NPB, pay for it, ask for a return?

baccaruda

Just tell the seller that your bid is cancelled because "Your money is no longer available for bidding"

tjkillian

Do you have a link or a eBay number?

Tom

joejeweler

Come on......buyers/bidders remorse is not a valid reason for a bid retraction! (your very 1st reason stated for wanted to retract the bid)

You din't say the seller actually changed the description and were then trying to retract........only that you attempted to use that as the reason on the retraction form. Don't know about your inability to reach the seller currently.....but if you win the coin i'm sure he'll get in touch with you.

If you entered a "wrong" amount it would have been changed right away.......so step up and honor your bid. YOU MADE IT!

I've been there..........we learn from our mistakes. Consider this your lesson and just be glad it wasn't a 3K remorse bid, which i once had!

quote: "looked at one and thought, damm why did I bid so much"

Placid

What is it? I might want it.

cosmicdebris

<< <i>Just tell the seller that your bid is cancelled because "Your money is no longer available for bidding" >>



Works for me.

flaminio

This is one reason I use a snipe program. I can program bids in, and they don't get executed until seconds before close. If I change my mind after programming in a bid, I can always take it out with no harm done, no black marks on my eBay report card.

K6AZ

If his email bounced, report him to eBay for false contact information. Ebay will NARU him and kill the auction, and you will be off the hook.

topstuf

Bid retractions should only be allowed with a 90 day suspension.

A retracted bid has already killed anyone who was bidding and lost interest because of price.

DIRE EMERGENCY ONLY!

Deadhorse

<< <i>Bid retractions should only be allowed with a 90 day suspension.

A retracted bid has already killed anyone who was bidding and lost interest because of price.

DIRE EMERGENCY ONLY!

>>



What? you never typed in the wrong thing before? I have bid retractions and each one was retracted immediatly. $2100.00 instead of $21.00, that sort of thing.

baccaruda

Bid retractions should only be allowed with a 90 day suspension.

I would agree with that as long as sellers who cancelled auctions within the last 12 hours were held to the same penalty.


If you entered a "wrong" amount it would have been changed right away.......so step up and honor your bid. YOU MADE IT!

When a seller makes a mistake in the listing, this should also be found before the last few minutes of the auction. The seller should step up and honor his auction.


A retracted bid has already killed anyone who was bidding and lost interest because of price.

A retracted auction has killed anyone who's wasted their time considering an auction falsely advertised as "no reserve". The seller should send payment to every bidder at the rate of $20/hour for the time spent on their auction if they wish to cancel it.

sinin1

the coin is a raw proof Mercury - seller says has hairlines from slight cleaning - picture too fuzzy to tell if regular proof hairlines or metal scrubber hairlines - offers a 7 day money back guarantee, but I do not like using eBay as an approval service


K6AZ - they have other auctions going, am not sure if email problem was with their aol account or with my hotmail account - would suck for them if all of their auctions closed because of email returned to sender - like state before, if I end high bidder they will probably eventually contact me


It is rather odd that eBay has different standards for bidders (binding contract) than sellers (should also be a binding contract, if it is not), especially when they pull their money from the sellers.

K6AZ

If eBay wanted to be fair, they would prohibit sellers from pulling auctions in the last 12 hours.

cointagious

<< <i>If eBay wanted to be fair, they would prohibit sellers from pulling auctions in the last 12 hours. >>



maybe if they just charged them the listing fee. sellers can have very legit reasons to cancel near the end of an auction.

hookooekoo

If eBay wanted to be fair, they would prohibit sellers from pulling auctions in the last 12 hours.

Sounds fair to me...

Except as cointagious stated, there will be times where the item will suddenly be no longer available within that last 12 hours (example, coin dealer has an auction that ends Saturday night, but Saterday afternoon, he sells the coin for more money than he thinks the auction will bring).

To discourage sellers from pulling auctions in the last 12 hours, I think that they should still have to pay the listing fee and a small cancelation fee based on its high bid as of 12 hours before the auction closes.

AbesNeighbor

Contagious,

Name a legitimate reason! (Selling off e-bay, once it is listed for sale, is not a valid reason in my opinion)

Dan

K6AZ

If a dealer lists a coin on eBay, he shouldn't be offering it to his customers. How would you feel if you had a bid on a coin, and at the last minute the seller pulled the auction? I can't think of any legitimate reason to end the auction in the last 12 hours.

Placid

Someone save him

DCAMFranklin

<< <i>Come on......buyers/bidders remorse is not a valid reason for a bid retraction! (your very 1st reason stated for wanted to retract the bid) >>



That's it!

redcents

Click on his feedback number, then click the ID History link at the bottom of his feedback "matrix", then fill out the
"Contact Info
<FONT size=2>Request a member's contact information" form to get the phone number he listed with eBay as his contact #, then give him a call & politely ask him to cancel the bid.

OR, you can just e-mail the 2nd high bidder when the auction closes and ask them if they still want it for their bid (I think it will be $2.50 less than your bid) and there you go....</FONT>

AFTER posting this reply AND PM'ing you I e-mailed the seller for you. Here is his response - TO ME!



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We can't cancel your bid. As the bidding party, you must retract the bid yourself.

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sinin1

wow, placid you are good - when checking out sellers other auctions I saw a 1938 quarter slabbed by NGC and I thought, bummer this probably was submitted at the same time and came back bodybagged -

thanks for the suggestions, and $130 isn't a big big screw-up



so all those people selling, if you had a coin come back in a bodybag from a major service, do you feel you are ethically obligated to disclose that in your auction description?

Russ

<< <i>if you had a coin come back in a bodybag from a major service, do you feel you are ethically obligated to disclose that in your auction description? >>



If one is selling the coin raw, absolutely yes.

Russ, NCNE

WWBillman

Agreed, a seller should be held to the same commitment standard as a bidder and not be allowed to close an auction within the last 12 hours. At some point a seller should be held accountable. They need to choose which venue they want to use to sell any perticular coin and the terms of the sale and then be held to it.

I have sold a few coins on Ebay that I was not delighted with the final hammer price. But I did not canx the auctions to save my butt as I was the one who set the terms at the start and as such take responsibility for any auctions success or shortcomings. Its called INTEGRITY something that a large part of the population is lacking.

Any seller that canx an auction within the last few hours will never get another bid from me on any future auction regardless.

LincolnCentMan

I was bidding on two 1939-D Nickels in PCGS MS66 one time in a Superior auction. As soon as I hit the submit button, I realized it was auctually an auction for two 1939-D PCGS MS66 cents. I tried to retract the bid imidiatly (three hours left in the auction.) It wouldnt let me. I tried calling... no dice. I tried e-mailing. I got an e-mail the next day saying that I had to pay. Man, I'd never been so discusted about a coin transaction. ...and I'm not kidding. I had that "sinking" feeling in my stomach. The only other time I've had that feeling was one night when I walked out of building from where the coin club meeting was being held, only to find my car wasnt where I parked it.... stolen. I paid them the $90 for the then $35 worth of coins. I have yet to bid on another one of their coins. Sure, I understand their possition, and they really didnt do anything wrong... but darn it... it hacked me off.

David

IronmanDuke

Talk about a typing error... Think she has "buyers remorse"? From yesterday's news

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A pair of President John F. Kennedy's Navy boxer shorts sold for $5,000 at auction on Saturday, while an on-line bidder for a personal notebook used during the 1960 Presidential campaign thought her winning bid was for $2,250, not the actual high bid of $22,500. "

Worth that much if it had Marilyn's phone number?

topstuf

Errors in bidding are inexcusable. They give plenty of time to place a bid and look at it twice and be naughty or nice etc, etc, etc.

I hate pulling an auction also, but have had sellers who did it for me because they know I will pay by a MONEY ORDER the same day of the confirmation.

I have had to dun bidders until the cows come home.

Once eBay becomes a REAL auction with REAL reserves or starting prices, it will be a WONDERFUL place to shop.

Screw scammers on BOTH ends of deals.

Just like a gun........don't point at anything you don't WANT to own.

And I refuse to believe that bidders are all sloppy and stupid.

Bid too much, pay too much. I've done it.

Your WORD is more important than any financial loss you may incur.

RETRACTED BIDS are for FOOLS!

If one can't see a misplaced decimal, they should be dipping for grab bags. BE CAREFUL....your bid is a CONTRACT. I realize that many Americans have lost the sense of responsibility for their actions, but a good WHACK once in a while may teach them a lesson.