1948 Bowman Clint Hartung #37

mikeschmidt · July 16, 2003 11:12PM

As the second toughest card of the set (next to #44 Johnny Wroystek which is a Pop 6), at least six of the seven copies of the #37 Clint Hartung in PSA 8 NM/MT no qualifiers are presently accounted for on the PSA Set Registry.

Marshall Fogel proudly has one in his registry. Charlie Merkel probably has one of the two PSA 9s -- but it is somewhat unclear. Riding up on the rare is Lawrence Block of Block Sportscards who is now proudly proclaiming to be hoarding five copies of this card in PSA 8 NM/MT condition.

Here's the link to the PSA Set Registry

I was surprised to see someone come out so boldly and admit to hoarding vintage low population commons. I know of at least one or two others who do this on a regular basis -- but are perhaps not so brazen about it.

MS

Basilone · July 17, 2003 12:11AM

That is some crazy stuff........

maybe you should do that with your Schmidt cards....

John

Wabittwax · July 17, 2003 12:35AM

If somebody is going to hoard low pop cards, they had better be willing to pay whatever it takes to get one when a new 8 is graded. That seems like a losing proposition unless you're positive that it's a card that new 8's aren't going to come up. If the pop goes from 6 to 12, your in trouble.

sixdart · July 17, 2003 1:03AM

Good move by a seller with "National" reputation?!?!

There have been other posts about this individual's efforts in dealing with buyers and his customer service skills. I think this is an excellent example of attitude shown towards his clients.

Remember he carries the title of "Mr. 1948 Bowman Baseball" - what a joke.

carew4me · July 17, 2003 1:13AM

I just dont see the point in it???

Especially a business concern such as his.

TheCARDKid · July 17, 2003 6:22AM

Reminds of DeBeers and how they hoard diamonds. Although, compared to diamonds, how many new '48 Bowman NM-MT cards are there going to be in 3-5 years? Probably not alot .

Vargha · July 17, 2003 7:21AM

It seems like smart business to me. What's the issue with it? We are all free to do the same type of thing while tying up and risking our capital as well.

sixdart · July 17, 2003 7:46AM

Posting his possession of these cards in this forum, a website or displaying them at a show (such as the National) would be just fine. However, creating 3 new PSA Set Registries for single common cards is just asinine and arrogant - it just shows his maturity level.

boggs301012 · July 17, 2003 8:25AM

sixdart

Ouch I will delete my second set asap.

Vargha · July 17, 2003 8:50AM

I didn't realize that he had single cards in the Registry. It would seem that he is bucking the system for the purposes of only advertising them. With that, I do take issue.

Vargha · July 17, 2003 8:53AM

I realize now that Marc posted a link (which I never clicked) -- sorry.

Virtualizard · July 17, 2003 8:53AM

A second set is fine for the registry. A 2nd, 3rd, and 4th set on the registry containing only 1 low pop example of the same card is extremely arrogant and really just antagonizes the rest of the registry participants who are trying to get this card.

It appears that this guy has 2 major strikes against him now in the past two weeks. I don't believe I've ever done business with him, but, I don't think I ever would now. What a great business decision for a dealer in sportscards to alienate the majority of his potential customers.

JEB.

BlockSportscards · July 17, 2003 12:19PM

So what, if I have all the 48'B. #37 Hartung's. There isn't anything wrong with that........Is there?

If its a joke to you all, just laugh. If its not smart financially, Just laugh. The point of this hobby isn't to please others like you guys. The point is to enjoy yourself, and have fun. If others do something that wouldn't be fun to you, then its like the saying goes "Different strokes for different folks"

I'm doing the 48's fun my own fun, not yours. If you don't like it......I don't care. I don't mind you guys talking about it on here, but I don't like being slammed for enjoying something that is harmless and fun to me. In the year 2000 is when I got crazy into these 48's. By the end of that year the pop had 730 or so total 8's I owned 412 of them. no, not financially smart, but I sure had a great time buying them. I made my kids a set each. One for my daughter, one for my son for there savings or what ever.
Them are the two you see on the registry. I'm almort done with mine. I can already be 2nd if I put it on now, but I'm going to wait till its complete.

I want to thank you guys for being out here keeping other up to date on everything. It truly is an asset to have access to information that comes out on this message board.

Please, believe me when I say "there is no ulterior motive to me having the 48's like I do"
Yes, I'm called the 48 Bowman King, but its not said by me. It was others that came up with that name.

FYI. Every #37 Hartung is accounted for. I had and sold the other Hartung 9 last month to a close collector friend (Big collector) of mine in New York. He has a huge high dollar collection, and does not put any of it on the registry. He does have one on there but it's not under his name. He left it in the same name it was in when he bought it from Superior Auction in December. It is the #1 set on the registry of the 1962 Topps BB. If anybody wants it. He is selling for $40,000. Anyway, back to what I was saying. The one I sold last month and Charlie Merkel's makes the two 9's, Marshall Fogel has one 8, and I own all six of the other 8's. One of them is in 707's set right now, but I just bought it from him on Ebay last week. So it will be on the registry under my name soon also.

Thank you guys for your time. And if you can.........Please don't pick on me just for having some harmless fun with my favorites (48 Bowman's)...........:-)

Sincerely,
Lawrence D. Block
Block Sportscards, Inc.

800-574-6440

Ebay= block_sportscards

If anybody has nice 1948 Bowman baseball (8's or above) I'll buy them.......I had to ad that part.....LOL

Howitallbegan · July 17, 2003 12:39PM

Lawrence

If you want to see slamming you should check out the threads on your unadertised and illegal paypal surcharge you charge on your ebay auctions

BlockSportscards · July 17, 2003 12:49PM

Six darts

My maturity level....huh.

If it will please you SIR. I can fill all three of them with more then 50% on each one with 8's or better.

Nobody at PSA has a problem with it. Why should you then?

Thanks again everybody. Hope to see or talk to you all soon at a show or something.

Sincerely,
Lawrence D. Block
Block Sportscards, Inc.

800-574-6440

www.BlockSportscards.com

B.S.I.
8920 Limonite Ave
Suite 290
Riverside, CA 92509

BlockSportscards · July 17, 2003 12:59PM

Yes, I seen that but that I do not have a problem with. They are right about that.

That was 100% deserved. I let time go by way too long before correcting Our invoices.

I know it doesn't mean anything to you tough crowd guys, But I will offer my true apologizes for that.

It has been changed now...

See I told you in one of my other replies on here........... You guys are an asset to the business, or hobby which ever it is to you. It got us off our butts to change the invoices by this message board.

So....once again.............Thank you guys

Sincerely,
Lawrence D. Block
Block Sportscards, Inc.

800-574-6440

www.BlockSportscards.com

B.S.I.
8920 Limonite Ave
Suite 290
Riverside, CA 92509

BlockSportscards · July 17, 2003 1:16PM

<<<<<<<<<< Vargha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thank you for your comment.

Man, Vargha you must type non-stop. I can't believe you have 8880 posts on this message board
in one year. That comes to about 24 every day for a year..................Wow
Thank you for all the info you have given to all who reads......

<<<<<<<< Attention everybody >>>>>>>>>

These 48's are not business to me...........They are my enjoyment and fun. You know "hobby"
So it doesn't have to make financial sense.... The fun is what a hobby is about.

Thanks again all.

Sincerely,
Lawrence D. Block
Block Sportscards, Inc.

800-574-6440

www.BlockSportscards.com

B.S.I.
8920 Limonite Ave
Suite 290
Riverside, CA 92509

BlockSportscards · July 17, 2003 1:21PM

<<<<<< Vargha >>>>>>>>>>>

Oops, my mistake. You've been on here for 2 years.

But that still comes to 12 every day for 2 years.............WOW

Thanks Vargha

Sincerely,
Lawrence D. Block
Block Sportscards, Inc.

800-574-6440

www.BlockSportscards.com

B.S.I.
8920 Limonite Ave
Suite 290
Riverside, CA 92509

qualitycards · July 17, 2003 1:57PM

<< <i>But that still comes to 12 every day for 2 years.............WOW >>

LAWRENCE - You've done 5 posts in a little over an hour, keep up that rate and you'll surpass VARGHA in no time

...jay

BlockSportscards · July 17, 2003 2:29PM

Jay,

Funny........... after this one I will still need 6 more for today..............LOL

Say Hi to Craig & Eileen for me

Thanks,

Sincerely,
Lawrence D. Block
Block Sportscards, Inc.

800-574-6440

www.BlockSportscards.com

B.S.I.
8920 Limonite Ave
Suite 290
Riverside, CA 92509

qualitycards · July 17, 2003 2:45PM

<< <i>Say Hi to Craig & Eileen for me >>

LAWRENCE - I would but they are about 10 states away from me in Wisconsin. I am Cavalcade Of Sports in PA w/ a web address of qualitycards.com (Craig was offered this and turned it down). My eBay ID is also qualitycards.com and started this when Craig went as ERcards on eBay, he now changed to Quality*Cards. Confusing, yes! But so is life! Perhaps I'll bump into you at The Nat'l next week...jay

Basilone · July 17, 2003 10:11PM

Jay-

In order to avoid confusion...just change your name to reallygoodcards.com then you wont have worry about it anymore. (sell the URL of course)

Basilone · July 17, 2003 10:12PM

Uh Oh...that sight has just been registered.

John

Vargha · July 18, 2003 12:26AM

Lawrence -- I apparently have far too much time on my hands (and a sick mind as well).

(TYPO EDITED)

carew4me · July 18, 2003 12:30AM

Yes, I'm called the 48 Bowman King, but its not said by me. It was others that came up with that name.

But in your sig line you........ forget it.

Tipem · July 18, 2003 1:11PM

I agree that it smacks of arrogance to register a set with only one low pop card.I also see that this dealer does not seem to care that he alienates others that are potential customers.It is nice to know that potential money is no object.I learn something new and enlightening about the dealers in this hobby every week.

Vic

tjf · July 19, 2003 10:21PM

I dont at all have a problem with the hoarding of a low pop card - It takes a lot of time probably to look through alot of cards to get the 8's and 9's- i wish I could hoard one card.
BUT I do have a problem with registering of four different sets on the registry just for the purpose of showing off one card and I dont think psa should allow it.

Skycap · July 21, 2003 4:04AM

Some called it arrogance.

Some called it hoarding.

He called it enjoyment of the hobby.

I'm now calling it lost sales....

I was on the verge of buying three cards (in the mid to high three digit dollars) listed on his web site when I luckily came across this thread. Sale cancelled.

Thanks, my collecting brothers.

Skycap

1948 Bowman Clint Hartung #37

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