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DO NOT DEAL WITH Kobecollector4ever. HE IS A LIAR
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Do not let kobecollector4ever Ebay ID king_kong_lives bid on any of your auctions. If you see his bid on your item remove it promptly as he does not follow instructions or rules put forth by ebay (or he can't read, one or the other) and he don't have any money. Below is what I had to go through dealing with this guy.
To all of you that are interested in how this whole deal went down. I listed the card on eBay. (item # 2734258923 ) A bidder by eBay I.D. of king_kong_lives won the auction. As always I check the feedback of the winner. I saw that his feedback was "private" And that he had 23 bid retractions in the past 6 months, I was a little nervous, Granted he had no neg. feedback so I was somewhat at ease. I E-mailed him with the total and my mailing information. He E-mailed me back a day or two later, said that there was a problem. That he had no money but not to worry, that he was going to sell some cards and either Paypal me the money or send cash. I told him that it was OK, just to keep me informed. About a week or two went by, he e-mailed me and said that he would be sending the money. When it arrived, 20 days after the auction ended he had instructions to "Mail the card in a good screw down and put it in a bubble envelope. Send it as a gift valued at less than $10.00 and send it Global Priority mail. He also included that "I know I didn't send enough for Global but that is all of the money that I have, " I e-mailed him and told him that I got the money and the card would be mailed out the next day. I e-mailed him the next day with the tracking # and told him that the card was on the way. That it was mailed Global Priority, Valued at $10.00 and sent as a gift and that it cost $4.00 more to mail it than he paid. He e-mails me back a few days later to tell me that he has not got the card yet and ask me to leave him pos. feedback.--I e-mailed him back, told him that I had sent him the tracking #, sent it Global Priority as he asked and that I have no control over the mail. I also told him that I would leave him feedback after he left it for me. My reason for this was from being an active seller on ebay for nearly 5 years I could tell from his e-mails and demands made in the snail mail that he would make this a difficult transaction. If you wish to do some checking, go to my eBay, check some of the feedback that I have left for others and see who left feedback first. I always leave feedback the same day payment is received if possible. Unless I have a bad feeling about how a transaction will go. And about my feedback. I have 3 negs. 1 from a guy that had his package crushed at the post office which I had no control over and 2 for items that I bought and was not sent the items. That feedback was in retaliation for neg. feedback that I had left the seller for keeping my money. As for the card. It was as described. Near mint. I had a supersize picture with the listing. And why did he not contact me when he got the card to tell me it was damaged? I could not have given a full refund but I would have made an effort to make him happy. As for his ebay usage. I have in my auctions US and Canada bidders only. He lives in Belgium! I also require payment within 10 days of auction end. He bid without having any money! But I still cut him some slack and agreed to wait till he could get some money together. So, when this guy gets his card, he leaves a pos. feedback with neg. comments as if I misrepresented my auction without ever informing me that he was unhappy with the condition of the card. I feel that the neutral feedback that he got was justified. he neglected to read the rules for bidding on my auction as well as ignored the bidding conditions. If any of you are sellers on eBay I would hope that you could see my side. If you are buyers, I hope that you follow the sellers conditions. Maybe we can all learn a lesson. If the buyer emails you and says he has no money then sell the item to the next high bidder. If you are buyer, don't bid if you don't have the money to pay and if a seller says in his listing that he only sells to certain countries or areas, don't bid. As for him telling you all not to deal with me, that is fine as well. I only came on this forum because my friend told me of what was said. Hopefully you can see as a seller or a buyer why this deal went sour. We wouldn't even be discussing this in the forum if the bidder would have read the item description and terms for bidding. As to why his feedback is private, I have no idea. ask him and see what he says. Mine is not. Feel free to check it. E-mail some of the users that have dealt with me.
eBay ID zomhead2
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To all of you that are interested in how this whole deal went down. I listed the card on eBay. (item # 2734258923 ) A bidder by eBay I.D. of king_kong_lives won the auction. As always I check the feedback of the winner. I saw that his feedback was "private" And that he had 23 bid retractions in the past 6 months, I was a little nervous, Granted he had no neg. feedback so I was somewhat at ease. I E-mailed him with the total and my mailing information. He E-mailed me back a day or two later, said that there was a problem. That he had no money but not to worry, that he was going to sell some cards and either Paypal me the money or send cash. I told him that it was OK, just to keep me informed. About a week or two went by, he e-mailed me and said that he would be sending the money. When it arrived, 20 days after the auction ended he had instructions to "Mail the card in a good screw down and put it in a bubble envelope. Send it as a gift valued at less than $10.00 and send it Global Priority mail. He also included that "I know I didn't send enough for Global but that is all of the money that I have, " I e-mailed him and told him that I got the money and the card would be mailed out the next day. I e-mailed him the next day with the tracking # and told him that the card was on the way. That it was mailed Global Priority, Valued at $10.00 and sent as a gift and that it cost $4.00 more to mail it than he paid. He e-mails me back a few days later to tell me that he has not got the card yet and ask me to leave him pos. feedback.--I e-mailed him back, told him that I had sent him the tracking #, sent it Global Priority as he asked and that I have no control over the mail. I also told him that I would leave him feedback after he left it for me. My reason for this was from being an active seller on ebay for nearly 5 years I could tell from his e-mails and demands made in the snail mail that he would make this a difficult transaction. If you wish to do some checking, go to my eBay, check some of the feedback that I have left for others and see who left feedback first. I always leave feedback the same day payment is received if possible. Unless I have a bad feeling about how a transaction will go. And about my feedback. I have 3 negs. 1 from a guy that had his package crushed at the post office which I had no control over and 2 for items that I bought and was not sent the items. That feedback was in retaliation for neg. feedback that I had left the seller for keeping my money. As for the card. It was as described. Near mint. I had a supersize picture with the listing. And why did he not contact me when he got the card to tell me it was damaged? I could not have given a full refund but I would have made an effort to make him happy. As for his ebay usage. I have in my auctions US and Canada bidders only. He lives in Belgium! I also require payment within 10 days of auction end. He bid without having any money! But I still cut him some slack and agreed to wait till he could get some money together. So, when this guy gets his card, he leaves a pos. feedback with neg. comments as if I misrepresented my auction without ever informing me that he was unhappy with the condition of the card. I feel that the neutral feedback that he got was justified. he neglected to read the rules for bidding on my auction as well as ignored the bidding conditions. If any of you are sellers on eBay I would hope that you could see my side. If you are buyers, I hope that you follow the sellers conditions. Maybe we can all learn a lesson. If the buyer emails you and says he has no money then sell the item to the next high bidder. If you are buyer, don't bid if you don't have the money to pay and if a seller says in his listing that he only sells to certain countries or areas, don't bid. As for him telling you all not to deal with me, that is fine as well. I only came on this forum because my friend told me of what was said. Hopefully you can see as a seller or a buyer why this deal went sour. We wouldn't even be discussing this in the forum if the bidder would have read the item description and terms for bidding. As to why his feedback is private, I have no idea. ask him and see what he says. Mine is not. Feel free to check it. E-mail some of the users that have dealt with me.
eBay ID zomhead2
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It was a U.S. and Canada only auction. When that is stated in the auction, it is there for a reason. Why do you think people put it there? No matter what their reason, or excuse, It is their auction, their prerogative. Bottom line is you should follow and respect their conditions for bidding.
Auction item # 2734258923
Below is the feedback that you wanted me to post. As you can see the feedback was a pos. with neg. comment insinuating that I did not accurately describe the item.
king_kong_lives (private) Jul-15-03 02:59:00 PDT 2734258923 S
Praise : Card received quickly, good seller even though the condition isn't all that, B +
Response by zomhead2 - CARD WAS AS DESRIBED. TOOK BUYER A MONTH TO PAY. DIDN'T SEND ENOUGH MONEY.
As for you not e-mailing me with the condition of the card, I can't read your mind and I am surely not going to make good on something after you insinuated that I was misleading in my description.
As for the postage. That is the only size envelope that the post office had in stock. I guess everyone was mailing Global Priority that day. Who knows? It's not the first time or the last that I have went to the post office to get a box or other supplies and find them to be out of stock. I have my supplies home delivered now but never ordered any Global priority envelopes considering I never ship that way.
Bottom line is if you would have read the item description, Followed my bidding conditions we wouldn't be posting this in this forum. Would we? I'm sure that any level headed eBayer would agree that you read the item description as well as sellers conditions for bidding before making your bid.
As for your feedback. You are right. That is your right to have private feedback. You are honestly the only person I have ever seen have it. I didn't even know it could be done. but with all of your excessive bid retractions, I can understand why you wouldn't want anyone to see them.
My ebay username zomhead1
ID card zomhead2( 675)
Member since: Friday, Sep 18, 1998 Location: United States
Summary of Most Recent Reviews
Past 7 days Past month Past 6 mo.
Positive 21 52 187
Neutral 0 0 0
Negative 0 0 1
Total 21 52 188
Bid Retractions 0 0 0
His username king_kong_lives
ID card king_kong_lives (private)
Member since: Thursday, Sep 26, 2002 Location: Belgium
Summary of Most Recent Reviews
Past 7 days Past month Past 6 mo.
Positive 4 7 37
Neutral 1 1 1
Negative 0 0 0
Total 5 8 38
Bid Retractions 0 0 22
Notice all of the bid retractions? 22 in the past 6 months. Obviously you do not follow eBays rules for retracting bids. Not too surprised since you ignore sellers terms for bidding as well.
as for deleting the post. You had better hurry because it is evident that you do not follow instuctions as it shows in your bid retracting and your faliure to read item descriptions and follow seller terms for bidding. I strongley suggest that you go back and read the ebay user agreement. It may keep you out of trouble in the future. As for you not bidding on my auctions anymore, i blocked you from bidding so we are both in agreement on that one.
Kingdom of Loathing Rocks!
You send me a damaged card, leave me a neutral feedback i don't deserve and then you have the nerve to blaim it on me !
Granted there was a picture in the auction where i could see the card wasn't in mint condition, but why is mine in worse condition then the picture ?
Oh MY GOD ! I am from Belgium ! Tell me about it ! I MUST be a bad buyer right !
OH MY GOD ! Whilst i didn't have any money you got paid for the card ! unbelievable ! must be magic !
My oh my , 22 bid transactions in the past 6 months , what a shame, didn't do any the last week or the past month but what do you care ! 22 ! unbelievable !
I must be quite a difficult person if i e-mail you what, like 5 times the whole deal telling you the payment is on the way and i send you one e-mail that i didn't get the card yet and you get mad at me for asking a simple question
My My aren't i a bad person
message from Kobecollector4ever to ALL ebay buyers : avoid this selle at all cost
apparently :
message from zomhead to ALL ebay sellers : avoid me ! LOL !
Let's see who is right ... most people will agree to me
They hate sellers as well who only leave feedback after you left one
That generally says : hey leave me a positive feedback and as soon as i get it, i'll leave you a negative or neutral one you don't deserve ! HA !
So , we made both our points clear, no need to add any info it's all clear
I say, let's ask the people here : who is right ? Kobecollector4ever or zomhead ?
Please reply with your answer and opinions
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
The question is , who is right ? me or the other guy ?
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
You sound like someone I wouldnt like......
I agree with the zombie.....
If it acts like a duck, quacks like a duck.....
coinlt
siliconvalleycoins.com
This is much the same, he did not even need to sell to you at all--you didnt follow his rules.
22 bid retractions is a bit unacceptable
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oh yea...jbuggs and JRCCRUM are skum/bags
If you have NO $$$ don't bid.
Seller gives you a break, and you don't even send enough to pay for shipping! Please!!!
I would of sold it to the next bidder. You deserve a NEG!!
I wouldn't waste my time with you.
So really i couldn't care less what all you people say, it just proves my point that there aren't any smart people on this board
( nee nie inclusief Undertaker )
I'm not gonna reply to these posts anymore either, it's pointless
So i guess it's just ok that somebody sends you a damaged card and you'd be expected to be happy with it. LOL
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
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zom
Kobecollector4ever:
You ignored directions of auction (U.S. and Canada only)
You then send email saying you don't have money yet (auction description said payment due in 7 days)
The seller bent over backward tyring to be a nice guy by agreeing to send outside US/Canada and even waiting much longer for you to get payment to him. You then start adding more demands (send in screwdown--which he had to go buy, I'd imagine), and ship via Global Priority.
He continued to meet every demand you had, despite the fact he could have stopped transaction due to your not meeting criteria (wrong country/late payment). He did everything you asked and then some. How do you reward him? You posted feedback saying card wasn't good condition--without ever contacting seller to ask about it.
I guess the IQ tests in Belgium are graded on quite a curve. You MAY be smart, but you were definately a pain in the butt regarding this transaction.
MY AUCTIONS!
My Scan Page
Erik
"Stop talking, negotiating,
Your feeble attempts at world peace
Give me a %#@*ing break
Need worldwide genocide, planetary suicide
And when the whole damn world is dead
there's your %#@*ing peace"
WANT TO GET RIPED OFF AGAIN AND IF I DONT SEND I DONT WANT HIM POSTING THAT I RIPED HIM OFF??WHAT
SHOULD I DO???
MIKEFROMCHESTER-BONDSBOY25-SKIVERMONT3-LITTLECRUM-SPORTSGU247-BUD-TAYLOR28JAG-
DPSPORTS-BRADLEY25-echoboy202-RockTheMic13-
AND MORE JUST DON'T REMEMBER WHO
HAVENT GOT CARDS FROM THESE PEOPLE IN 2 MONTHS
WARDOG276-TONY HENSON
BILLABONGDUDE083-BRANDON JOSEPH
JASON KATCHER
<< <i>I JUST DID A TRADE WITH HIM SHOULD I SEND???? OR JUST WAIT TILL I GET HIS AND THEN SEND,I JUST DONT
WANT TO GET RIPED OFF AGAIN AND IF I DONT SEND I DONT WANT HIM POSTING THAT I RIPED HIM OFF??WHAT
SHOULD I DO??? >>
Go ahead and send.. he's a good trader.. He messes up his eBay actions sometimes but he's a good trader.. I know him in real life, don't worry..
Personal Collection
Personal Collection
Zom you're really starting to piss me off , you had your little fun for a while , now cann it because you're only ruining it for yourself as being a nag
anyone who i ever traded with knows that i'm a good trader
@ baseballman
please i sent your cards 3 days ago, you were supposed to as well, you're even lucky i wanted to send at the same time because i normally never do that, only on TR and people who i traded with before
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
@ Vincecarter
are you calling me a liar ? If you want to see a detailed scan of the card to judge if i'm right or wrong then just ASK instead of making me look dishonest here !
my business with you is on TR, not here , but if you want to use that as an excuse to make me look dishonest on this forum that's your call, just shows what kinda person you are
And why would i have put on TR it was in bad condition ? Nobody cares there, i put it here because the seller of the card is on THIS forum, not TR
And right now i'm gonna ask the moderator to delete this topic because it's ruining the forum
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
I will make a scan right now and let people know what a jerk you are
I made ONE mistake by bidding on a NON us auction
ALLTHOUGH i DID say i was going to bid on the Kidd when he made a post about his auctions , he KNEW i was from Belgium and he let me bid so that's not even my fault !
As for you , you are just an a******
You send me DAMAGED card, and you then have the nerve to leave me a neutral feedback when i leave you a positive feedback, furthermore you can think you can join here and post whatever you want
BAD call ! I won't be too surprised if you get kicked off soon , because unlike you , i actually do some trading around here
You're a seller, you don't do anything on this forum but to make my life miserable
Perhaps i have only one friend on THIS forum yeah , but it sure beats having none does it Zom
I'm gonna make a scan right now and let people know what kind of hypocrite liar you really are
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
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<< <i>Kobe, I didn't tell the guy not to send did I? I sent him a P.M. and told him to have you send first. He asked, I told him my opinion. I didn't post it in public though. It someone else would ask, I would say the same thing.
look buddy, you have no business telling other people not to trade with him or make him send first. What if we started mailing all the high bidders on your eBay items and make you look like a bad seller? Would you like that? I don't think so.
This is a Buy/Sell/Trade forum. You haven't made 1 post concerning a possible Trade/Buy/Sell of a sports card. You have nu business comin' here. I've said it before and I'll say it again: (maybe you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, I don't know) He may have messed up some of his eBay actions, but that does NOT, I repeat, does NOT have an effect on his trading habits. He's a great trader, and again (seems like I have to tell you stuff twice before it actually gets to you), you DON'T have the right to PM people and tell them that he's a bad trader, because you don't know that.
As far as I'm concerned, this discussion is closed. If you come here and start talking some more trash instead of just dropping this whole thing, I will report this post & you to the Mods.
Personal Collection
f**** off
@ ALL
Look at the scan and see what a lousy seller he is , who else wouldn't complain about this ? The auction picture shows it nicely , unlike what he actually sent me
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
use the PMs so we dont have to listen to your whining back and forth
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Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
Also,just friendly advice......double check were the seller is willing to ship to,and if you get a card you dont like ask for a refund,or did you?
just my 2 cents
Has he been posting somewhere else about this? I'm sure he didn't give the whole story. P.M. me please.
Taker, as I told you. I didn't tell the guy not to trade with him. I suggested that he not send first. He asked me for my advice and I gave it to him. I did not tell the guy that he was a bad trader. Where you got that information, I don't know.
As far as you e-mailing bidders about my auction. As you can see from my feedback (that is not hidden by the way) that I am an outstanding seller. I am sure that people look at my feedback before they place thier bids. You can tell them what you want. My feedback profile speaks for itself.
Yeah, and I admit it. I am not the shrpest knife in the drawer. ( We all can't be geniuses can we?
If he is a good trader then good for him and all he has traded with. Point is he came on and posted negative comments about me. He thought he would get by with nothing coming of it. He was wrong. He asked his fellow forum members who was right and who was wrong. he trashed them when they told him what he didn't want to hear. Then comes on a few days later and wants to sell them a card? What kind of "Good Trader" bashes people on his own forum?.
If you want to report this post and me to the mods. Go ahead. They will see that he started this whole thing. I only post when something is said about me or this subject. I am getting tired of it too but, I wont back down. If something is said, I will respond. if not then I wont.
He never e-mailed me regarding the condition of the card. given, he did post a pos. feedback but it contained a neg comment.
If he would have e-mailed me instaed of that, and posting the comments on this board we would not be going through this now.
<< <i>he hasnt posted he just posted that he had a great mail day and that was 1 of the cards. He has said nothing to offend anyone >>
Thanks !
And LOL no zom i'm sure you didn't tell anybody not to trade with me
DO NOT DEAL WITH Kobecollector4ever. HE IS A LIAR
Jason Richardson 01-02 Rookie Year
Kenyon Martin 00-01 Rookie Year
By the way. Here is the item # for the card in question. Since the auction is over it will no longer show the supersize picture. Please note that the item description says near mint. He could have used the "ask seller a question" option to get more info on the card.
Ebay item #2734258923
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