Scam Seller On 1975 Topps.

Vargha · July 10, 2003 3:26PM

1975 Topps Robin Yount Rc #223 PSA MINT 9!!!!

I sent him the following e-mail:

According to the PSA Certification Database, certification number 01532927 is defined as the following:

CARD INFORMATION
Year: 1975
Brand: TOPPS
Player: ROBIN YOUNT
Variety: N/A
Grade: 9OC

Either you are ignorant as to qualifiers (which I doubt) or you are scamming people by not posting a scan or mentioning the qualifier. Additionally, 60/40 is not "OC". Pull the auction and don't try to rip people off.

I am going on vacation tomorrow, so if someone wants to follow-up with eBay, it would be appreciated.

Stump · July 10, 2003 8:07PM

I just emailed him.

Dave

rw2win · July 10, 2003 9:49PM

Vargha - Stump, Me to!

gemint · July 10, 2003 10:45PM

My question to seller:

"What's the measurement on centering top to bottom centering? Please include it in your description or include a scan. Preferably adding the 'OC' qualifier in your description would be ideal. You may fool the buyer but then you can expect a negative feedback when they see that they have just bought a $50 card instead of a $400 card."

KING KELLOGG · July 10, 2003 11:06PM

I've added my email to the mix....

Hope the item is pulled.

Thanks for the post.

Larry

gaspipe26 · July 10, 2003 11:49PM

I did too.

gaspipe

qualitycards · July 11, 2003 1:43AM

I didn't want to feel left out, so I Emailed too! I asked if the card had any qualifiers since there was no scan present! ...jay

rw2win · July 11, 2003 1:55AM

Why do I enjoy emailing scam sellers so much? I must be a distant cousin three times removed from Columbo.

qualitycards · July 11, 2003 1:58AM

It would be pretty cool if he got 200 Emails...jay

spacktrack · July 11, 2003 2:17AM

He added the OC to the auction as of now and he thanks you for the e-mails as well.

Virtualizard · July 11, 2003 2:24AM

Man, that's easily overlooked. I knew it was there and had to search for it. I hope he notified the 3 current bidders as well (if someone here hasn't already). Keep an eye on this one for 3 bid retractions.

JEB.

Stump · July 11, 2003 2:27AM

He emailed me back and stated he didn't add the OC because he felt in his opinion that it was not off center.

Dave

qualitycards · July 11, 2003 2:28AM

JEB - theres no need for bidders to retract their bids since the reserve wasn't met. If any had higher snipes set in, they can adjust that without anyone knowing...jay

KING KELLOGG · July 11, 2003 2:45AM

I also emailed the 3 bidders. One of them has responded with thanks.

I think the first bidder is a member of this board. (yawie99)

I see now that there is also a 4th bidder...

Larry

gemint · July 11, 2003 2:46AM

<< <i>He emailed me back and stated he didn't add the OC because he felt in his opinion that it was not off center.

Dave

>>

LOL! If his opinion is so much better respected in the hobby than PSA, why doesn't he just crack it out of the holder and call it a 'rich-jen 9'? Then we can all flock to the auction and buy this nicely centered mint card.

KING KELLOGG · July 11, 2003 2:51AM

Gemmy....Exactly!

Larry

qualitycards · July 11, 2003 6:29AM

My Email asked if there were any qualifiers on the card since there was no scan included.
His response was quick & courteous.

<< <i>OC, I have put that in the description now. Thanks and sorry for any confusions >>

Virtualizard · July 11, 2003 7:48AM

<< <i>JEB - theres no need for bidders to retract their bids since the reserve wasn't met. If any had higher snipes set in, they can adjust that without anyone knowing...jay >>

Jay,

Sorry, I didn't notice the reserve when I looked at the auction again. Also didn't notice how low the high bid was. I guess a bid retraction isn't warranted yet - I just remembered the $400 BIN.

It's now at $34. I don't know that it's worth any more than this without seeing a scan. I think the seller is doing himself a disservice. If the card is that close to borderline OC, he could crack it out and resubmit, or at least post a large, high resolution scan to let potential bidders make that decision for themselves.

JEB.

KING KELLOGG · July 12, 2003 4:10AM

The bid is up to $165.50 now...

Hmmmmm....

Larry

Wabittwax · July 12, 2003 10:02AM

That auction came up when it first started on one of my searches and my heart almost skipped a beat when I saw the $400 buy it now. I raced to check the cert number in hopes of hitting the buy it now before anybody else did only to be able to exhale again realizing that it wasn't what it said to be. I emailed him also at the time. Apparently everyone else on this board found the auction too. That guy must have gotten bombarded by emails.

Wabittwax · July 15, 2003 11:24PM

I can't believe that this guy just relisted the Yount with no mention of it being a 9oc when he must have gotten 50 emails from the last auction stating the discrepancy. This has turned from possibly an honest mistake to really trying to rip somebody off. The funny thing is that he uses this in his auction description:

"Since this is a serious auction, I'd ask for serious bidders only!"

How about we start with a serious seller first. Ebay should get involved in this. Some unsuspecting card collecting novice will get burned on this and the end result will be one less card collector in the world.

DrNguyenVanFalk · July 16, 2003 1:23AM

Ebay should get involved in this.

Like that's going to happen. I just got this top-secret photo of the eBay executive officers debating the issue of keyword spamming and the stealing of scans:

Scam Seller On 1975 Topps.

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