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What's The Rarest Lincoln Memorial Double Die?

THE PCGS POPS:

MS:
60-D S/L: Total Pop 42 - RED(42) 64=14 / 65=23 / 66=5
69S: Total Pop 17 - BN(14) VG/VF=1 / XF45=1 / AU50=2 / AU55=4 / AU58=5 / MS62=1, RB(1) 62=1, RED(2) 64=1 / 65=1
70-S: Total Pop 25 - BN(4) AU58=3 / MS64=1, RB(3) MS63=1 / MS64=2, RED(18) MS64=14 / MS65=2 / MS66=2
71: Total Pop 13 - RB(2) MS63=2, RED(11) AU58=1 / MS62=1 / MS63=3 / MS64=4 / MS65=2 Arguably the ABSOLUTE RAREST MS Double Die Lincoln if strictly based on the pops but NOT the most desirable due to less impressive doubling than the 69-S or the 70-S.

PR:
1960 L/S Total Pop 50 - RED(50) 65=1 / 66=6 / 67=31 / 68=11 / 69=1 Any opinion on the preference of the FS-023 vs. the FS-025?
1960 S/L Total Pop 17 - RED(15) 66=4 / 67=10 / 68=1, CAM(1) 67=1, DCAM(1) 66=1 - Arguably the ABSOLUTE RAREST Proof Lincoln Overall (not just among Doubled Dies) if strictly based on the pops. Also, as far as CAM & DCAM's are concerned, also the rarest (or at least tied for such) of those that have ANY CAM's or DCAM's at all among their pops.
1971-S DD Total Pop 38 - RED(31) 64=3 / 65=1 / 66=12 / 67=14 / 68=1, CAM(6) 64=1 / 66=2 / 67=2 / 68=1, DCAM(1) 66=1 Any opinion on the preference of the FS-032 vs. the FS-033 & the FS-033.1?

Comments

  • Yawn! image
    By the way, your icon is wacked on PCP! it needs some serious antipsychotics.
  • DatentypeDatentype Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    That's pretty funny!
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Why ask when you already know the answer? I know you know what my answer to the question is.

    Here's a question right back at you...which of those four is the most overvalued right now?

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭✭
    At one time or another I have owned all four of the ones you listed above and none of them is as rare
    as the 1958 DD. About 10 years ago I bid $22,000 for one in a private closed bid auction
    and ended up the under bidder. I sold my 69S DD PCGS XF45 to jack Baymer about 6 or 7 years
    ago.

    Nick

  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭✭
    Whoops, I just noticed you said Memorial. Disregard my last post.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    Roger

    I have a question for you.Which of the 4 coins listed is the most doubled?

    What is the value (price) of a 1969 s DDO in PCGS ms 64 red?
    What is the value (price) of a 1970 s DDO in PCGS ms 64 red?
    What is the value (price) of a 1971 DDO in PCGS ms 64 red?

    How about the price of a 65 red or a 66 red?

    Stewart

  • redcentsredcents Posts: 734
    Hi Stewart,
    To Reply To Your Inquires:
    I think the 69-S takes the cake. I actually get dizzy looking at a picture of it's doubling. As to the values I can only guess that the 69-S in 64 red is about a $125,000 coin and the 70-S is around a $6-10k (but it seems overpriced) coin right now and the 71 if you can find one is around a $2,500 coin. These are just guesses and observations and the regirgitation of what others have told me although I've personally seen the prices on the 70-S in that range. As for prices above 64 RD one can only speculate.
  • redcentsredcents Posts: 734
    See updated main thread.
  • DatentypeDatentype Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    Redcents, what happened to your "whacked out" red hot chilli pepper icon? Now you don't even have a red cent or red anything for your icon.
  • redcentsredcents Posts: 734
    Got sick & tired of people saying exactly what you just said about it.
  • DatentypeDatentype Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    Much better!!!!!!
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    wow a great monster thread and information redcents thnaks i learned lots i dod know about those coins you mentioned and for me you are absolutely right about the 69 s i also love your icon!!!!


    sincerely michael
  • Thank You for the kind words. Glad you found it informative.
  • lol!!

    rookies sheesh.

    the 69s/70s. ddo are very rare, and both are in the 10,000$ range .
    but the truth be known they haven't been selling very well.
    the lone 72ddo in pcgs 68 would be the king and always will untill there's another.

    this coin is a real monster.
    may the force be with you.



    rob.
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the 69s/70s. ddo are very rare, and both are in the 10,000$ range . >>



    << <i>but the truth be known they haven't been selling very well. >>



    1. The 1969-S is flat-out not in the same ballpark as the 1970-S.
    2. Please point me at any $10,000 range 1969-S DDOs that are not selling and I will take care of that problem.
    3. Estimated surviving population of the 1969-S DDO is ~20 coins (maybe a bit low but not by too much IMO). For comparison PCGS has certified 16 (or more) MS RED 1970-S DDO coins.
    4. The latest Heritage auction result shows that a PCGS MS62RB 1969-S DDO sold for $16,675 in Jan. 2000. Some other choice prices realized from that same timeframe: 1910 MS67RD $2185, 1912 MS66RD $719, 1922 No D MS62RB $2760. At that time I remember buying PCGS MS67RD dates like the 1948-D, 1951-D and 1954-D for $25 and earlier dates such as the 1927, 1928 and 1929 were easy to find at $400-$500. Just trying to put $17K for a Lincoln in perspective.

    So I think you missed the mark on the 1969-S, Rob. I think that if the pop1/1 PCGS MS64RD 1969-S DDO were available for sale now that redcents' estimated price is very realistic.

    rookies sheesh.

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the 1958 DD. About 10 years ago I bid $22,000 for one in a private closed bid auction >>



    Maybe off topic but an astute observation. Just how much is a 1958 DD (2 known?) worth these days? I'm usually pretty good at guessing price levels but that one...I have no idea.

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • Obviously the 1969S is the rarest of the memorials, and the 58DDO is the rarest of the wheats. I would estimate their value at way more than you might think.image
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