Check Out AH's new auction terms

K6AZ

"*** WE DO NOT ACCEPT BIDS FROM ANYONE WITH A RATING OF 10 OR LESS OR RCC MEMBERS . IF YOU WIN A ITEM WITH A RATING OF 10 OR LESS OR ARE A RCC MEMBER, WE WILL NOT SHIP THE ITEM TO YOU AND ASK EBAY TO CANCEL YOUR BID OR FEEDBACK. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL ANY BID.*******"

Link

So, I assume if you are a PCGS board member you can bid to your heart's content!

Tassa

Heh, heh.

BAJJERFAN

My heart is contented by not bidding atall on his awkshuns.

kamehameha00

'ACCUGRADE, INC has never had a major complaint filed against them in 19 years. '



rofl!

nwcs

Too bad there isn't an icon here for profuse crying. I'm so sad for him...

Bear

Whats an RCC Member? Royal Crown Cola?

keets

i took the liberty of rewriting it for Mr. H.

"*** WE DO NOT ACCEPT BIDS FROM ANYONE who knows how to grade or may have been burned by purchasing Accugrade holdered coins in the past. IF YOU WIN A ITEM and know how to grade or may have been burned by purchasing Accugrade holdered coins in the past, WE WILL NOT SHIP THE ITEM TO YOU AND ASK EBAY TO CANCEL YOUR BID OR FEEDBACK because we expect that after you receive the coin(s) you'll be returning them anyway. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL ANY BID, Na Na NaNa Na!!!!! don't mess with us, buster, especially that K6AZ dude.*******"

al h.

cosmicdebris

Remember that ACG PR68 quarter I bid on? He cancelled the auction.

kamehameha00

lets all bid on the auctions so he'll have no customers!

lava

Reading that listing makes me disgusted. I guess a major complaint is a conviction followed by sentencing calling for death by legal injection. I know of lots of complaints, any of which I would consider to be troublesome, and collectively I consider to be major. These folks should be in jail.

hookooekoo

**********ACG OFFERS A COMPARABLE GRADE TO PCGS & NGC AT A BETTER PRICE****

Given that the definition of "comparable" is "capable of being compared; permitting comparison" I guess the quote is true (after all it is easy to compare an MS-65 1921 SLQ to a cleaned VF-35 1922 SLQ).

Bear

Lava, dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

K6AZ

These people think they are very clever. What these new terms tell you is they only want people who won't complain, and won't stand up for their rights as a buyer.

As far as their "no major complaints" speil, I guess this doesn't constitute a major complaint:

STUPPLER: Hi, Larry. It's Barry Stuppler. We're here at the ANA hearing and I wanted you to share your experience with Accugrade in regard to that 16-D dime.



WHITLOW: I will be very happy to. I was at a coin show in Baltimore, approximately a year ago. Somebody approached me and offered to sell me a 1916-D dime. I believe it was graded AU-50, and I bought the coin. The coin was priced at a fair market. I paid something like $3500 for it. And I paid the man. In fact, the fellow wanted cash. He said he was a collector and I got identification and wrote him a check and had him endorse the check to me and so I cashed the check for him. A little while later I looked at the coin closely. When I bought it I didn't think I had anything to worry about because I just glanced at it because it was in an Accugrade holder, so I just assumed that it was going to be real. I showed it to somebody else and I questioned it and when I looked, put a glass on and looked, I realized the coin was bad also. So I walked the coin over to Alan Hager who was at the show and I said, "Alan, take a look at this." And I handed him the coin and he just looked at it for like 3 or 4 seconds, turned his back on me, took a couple of steps over and I heard plastic crack, and the next thing you know, he's handing me the coin back out of the holder. I said, "You can't do that." I don't remember what his response was, but I ended up going over and getting the fellow that runs the show, Ed Kuzmere, and explained to him what happened and we went back and Alan ended up agreeing to paying me the money that I had paid for the coin which I did get. It took me as I recall, probably a month or so or three or four weeks to get the money, but I did get my money back. But what he did was totally totally unethical to take my coin and my property and crack it out of the holder like that. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

4thStooge

So, K6AZ, what's your personal beef with this guy? Seems like you spend an awful lot of time on this subject.

Barry

How could a guy with as much experience as Larry Whitlow say something like " ...because it was in an Accugrade holder, so I just assumed that it was going to be real..." Shouldn't he know better?

Shamika

Is that story for real?

K6AZ

<< <i>How could a guy with as much experience as Larry Whitlow say something like " ...because it was in an Accugrade holder, so I just assumed that it was going to be real..." Shouldn't he know better? >>



He does now. And this story has been verified with two other people.

Shamika

WOW!

What is an RCC Member?

mnmcoin

<< <i>How could a guy with as much experience as Larry Whitlow say something like " ...because it was in an Accugrade holder, so I just assumed that it was going to be real..." Shouldn't he know better? >>



In my opinion ACG is just known for overgrading coins, but seem to be able to authenticate coins properly.

morris <><

cherrypickincoin

I'm surprised ACG doesn't just flat out ban all ANA members.

kranky

"RCC" is an abbreviation for the Usenet newsgroup rec.collecting.coins. There is no such thing as "RCC members", though. Anyone can post to RCC.

wingedliberty

That fact alone that I will not be able to bid on AH coins will make me loose sleep. Its funny to see that ACG continues to conquer new grounds of insanity. The Numismatic Axis of Evil, which includes NTC,ACG,Littleton, and Coin Vault, all have a very warm spot downstairs.


Brian.

itsnotjustme

I just sent him a question about ACG's FH designation on SLQs. I asked if there is another designation for complete head, hair, and leaf details, as ACG's FH cannot mean what PCGS & NGC's does.

Maybe with more questions, we can also get banned.

Dog97

BUT BUT BUT K6AZ, what about our NGC Registry Sets? From ahcollectables eBay's ME page ME..........
<<<If you are working on an NGC REGISTRY SET from 1960 and up, we will make it a point to beat any dealers advertised price.>>>

Customer service?
<<<We will bend over backwards to please you.>>>
Who's bending who over?

He really likes ACG holders.
<<<We carry over 3000 ACG certified coins in stock at all times.>>>

He really likes NGC holders the best.
<<<We carry over 5000 NGC certified coins in stock at all times.>>>

No wonder I can't find any NGC 70's for my set.
<<<We have over 500 NGC 70'S in stock>>>
500? You gotta be joking! Wondercoin doesn't even have that many 70's.