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Did Barney's coin sell at LB?

You remember the one.....two-sided toning........86 or 84-P....don't recall exactly.

Just wondering.

GSAGUY
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    Yep, for $800.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    Yikes!! Ouch is right.

    That coin was offered to me a couple of years ago at something like $2400 by dealer Warren Reeves and I told him he was stark-raving mad. Some number of months later (at an LB show) it was again offered to me at $2100. While I easily recognized the coin, I didn't know the dealer so I didn't insult his mother.

    Barney later showed me the coin after he'd purchased it for cash and trade.

    I hoped he'd do better than that on the piece, but I'm not really too surprised. I remember telling Warren that I'd rather wait and buy that coin at auction one day for $500-1000. Guess I wasn't too far off.

    Thanks,

    GSAGUY


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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570
    I bid $450 on it, TBT was also an underbidder.

    Barney thought he had a buy back for $2000 on it, because he posted it didn't sell and he would be keeping it.

    Later he posted an email from them saying "If you want a reserve let me know", but I think he skipped over that part.

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    Currently US $700.00 First bid US $150.00
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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    Relayer,

    In other words, the coin sold for $800 plus the juice? That's gotta hurt.

    GSAGUY
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Gsaguy,

    Actually, it sold for $805 including the juice. Hammer was $700.

    Russ, NCNE
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570
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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    Thanks for the link relayer.

    From the correspondence I saw, it certainly looked like Barney asked for a $2000 reserve on that coin. Of course, some correspondence may be missing, including phone conversations.

    So where's this thing stand....they sold the coin and told him to take a hike?

    GSAGUY
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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    The last time he said goodbye, he said they sold the coin. I think this is the sentence in his email that did him in:



    << <i>Please advise my of the cost involved before executing my request >>



    He told them to do, but then said tell him the cost before they do it. Hard to understand how the deal got messed up. image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I think there was a bunch of communication breakdown thoughout the process of the sale. Not sure where the real fault lies, but I do feel sorry for Barney. He took it coming and going on this one.

    Russ, NCNE
  • byergobyergo Posts: 586
    Thats one hell of a toned Morgan for $800. I wish I was watching that auction. :-(
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  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    I see.

    If they quoted him a cost as he requested, but then he never said 'okay', they could assume he had changed his mind on the original request.

    I agree with Russ, this one was a costly lesson in more ways than one. Based on the bit of correspondence I've seen, if I were Goldberg's, I'd make him whole on the $2000 reserve.

    GSAGUY
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Hey Gsaguy,

    You're renowned for the best toners, but you weren't around when I scored this one:

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    It's actually already been sold, but I'd be interested in your opinion.

    Russ, NCNE
  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    Russ,

    That one not only has all the right colors in all the right places, but the surfaces look plenty clean as well. And for an 82-O the luster looks exceptional.

    What's the story on that one? Nice score.

    One day if we can hook up at a show, I'd be glad to show you a few of my 'cuter' pieces.

    GSAGUY

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He got it at a flea market image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the story on that one? Nice score. >>



    Gsaguy,

    Amazingly enough, I found it raw at a flea market. Posted images of it here to make sure it wasn't AT (I'm still learning). The response was good so I expressed it to PCGS on a $50 submission and it graded MS65.

    I would LOVE to see some of your stuff sometime! Maybe some day.

    Russ, NCNE
  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    APN,

    I hope he bought it for $80 and sold it for $3500!image

    GSAGUY
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  • jomjom Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did Barney's coin sell at LB? >>



    I dunno but Fred and Wilma sold their garbage disposal Pelican for $5500. image

    jom
  • gsaguygsaguy Posts: 2,425
    <<I dunno but Fred and Wilma sold their garbage disposal Pelican for $5500.>>

    Ah yes, must be nearing midnight. Is there also a full moon? imageimage

    GSAGUY
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  • jomjom Posts: 3,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ah yes, must be nearing midnight. Is there also a full moon? >>



    C'mon! Get with the humor, man! And, no, it's 9:30pm on the left coast. image

    jom

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