Opinions from Lincoln guys

shylock · June 20, 2003 4:57AM

I've been looking for one nice early Lincoln for a while, for a copper lover they offer the most beautiful red planchets in existence. I'd prefer one of the common dates from the teens for their great strikes, but I couldn't resist this 1928 PCGS 67RD. I know the hardcore Lincoln guys read this forum so I'd appreciate all honest opinions about a date & series for which I have little frame of reference. (The reverse slab has quite a few scuff marks.)

clackamas · June 20, 2003 5:09AM

Whats the stuff on the "T" on the obverse? Also is that a nick on his cheek? If its a nick and/or some stuff by the "T" its an MS66, a PQ one, IMO. I do like the look of the coin and it has nice bright clean fields.

shylock · June 20, 2003 5:21AM

The slab is nicked over the T of CENT as well as over STATES. The one imperfection I did notice, aside from a couple minute hits on the denomination, was a faint planchet or die flaw on the cheek bone that shows at certain angles. A better look at the obverse:

lazeroo · June 20, 2003 5:36AM

very nice shylock,

I've been looking for one for awhile. in either ngc / pcgs slab.

I haven't been able to locate one at all. this one is a keeper.
thanx for sharing it.

LincolnCentMan · June 20, 2003 12:06PM

I like it. More importainly, you like it.

David

dpoole · June 20, 2003 1:18PM

Really nice luster and color on that one, Shylock particualrly on the obv. Not a cheap coin for that date in 67! Nice find!

IrishMike · June 20, 2003 9:31PM

Great eye appeal and look at Abe's furrowed brow. The pix really bring out the detail. I still think the profile is one of the most interesting artistic renditions done on a U.S. coin.

jonesy · June 21, 2003 12:29AM

Great looking Lincoln Cent. Wish all mine looked just like it!!

mdwoods · June 21, 2003 1:24AM

Absolutely superb Shylock. Almost 100% on the strike, great eye appeal, very clean and as usual, your pictures are outstanding. Thanks for sharing Paul. mdwoods

merz2 · June 21, 2003 3:03AM

I must concur with the rest.The strike is excellent.I don't think you could find a better one.If the luster is as good as it looks,it is PQ definitely.

lincolnSence · June 21, 2003 5:59AM

Why does Clackamas always play the killjoy? Beautiful coin. Great shot as well. Wish you could shoot some of my stuff!

marcalan84 · June 21, 2003 7:37AM

It is a beautiful Lincoln Cent. There are very few that you could ever find nicer in the earlier dates. I wish I had one or two just like it.

shylock · June 21, 2003 7:47AM

Thanks for the responses from all the collectors I respect here. It really is a beautiful coin in person and I think I imaged it dead on, but I appreciate Clackamas spotting the reverse defects in the plastic because honesty is what I'm looking for.

I returned quite a few before buying this and learned a few things about Lincolns along the way:

1. MS66RD's can look gorgeous in their images but hide a lot of fly specs. I returned some real heartbreakers due to this.
2. It's a tough series to judge strike, with some years/mints struck much better than others.
3. Like common date Indian cents, the planchets used during the first two decades of the Lincoln series occasionally create works of frosty eye candy only a copper lover can fully appreciate.
4. Using Stewart Blay's Lincolns as a point of comparison dooms you from the start.

dpoole · June 21, 2003 8:40AM

By coincidence, I got a 1928 MS67Rd PCGS Lincoln in today. I thought it would be interesting to put it up here as well, for people to compare the grading criteria, etc. What do you think?

grip · June 21, 2003 9:05AM

Nice original color,a few planchet flaws on reverse,also at 6 there seems to be a few minor dings.I wouldn't pay 7 money for it.Al

DMWJR · June 21, 2003 1:50PM

Nothing against DPoole's, but I like shylock's better. I actually like the mellowing along the rim and the nice pure copper color in the center of the coin. That pinkish raw copper color is something that I like very much. I have two matte proofs with coloring like that.

Of course it is hard to complaint about DPoole's deep red coin. But we are down to personal preference ere.

IT's hard to tell the validity of a 67 from a scan, but I don't see anything on either coin that would preclude a 67, so I'm going with that number.

dpoole · June 21, 2003 2:35PM

Nothing against Dpoole's Lincoln either, but I prefer the color of Shylock's as well! Smooth!

shylock · June 21, 2003 7:02PM

I'd prefer one of each, it's like comparing chocolate and vanilla ice cream. The rich copper tone of Dpoole's is a flavor of copper I love just as much. Together they'd make nice bookend 1928's, distinctly different coins from the same date.

Doug - I know exactly what you mean about the light mellowing along the rim and the raw pinkish coppery center. It's what attracted me also, though I had a tougher time putting it into words.

LincolnCentMan · June 21, 2003 10:51PM

Since there are different variables that went into each pic, it wouldnt be fair to call one as unquestionably nicer than the other. The biggest two variables being the camera type and lighting. I can say, I prefer the pic of shylocks better, but doople's looks solid for the grade. If I were buying early 67's, I wouldnt hesitate to pay 67RD money for either.

David

buc · June 21, 2003 11:17PM

I like both, but I believe dpoole's example to be a stronger strike than shylock's example. If you look at the shoulder of lincoln you will notice a grainy appearance of shylock's Cent, but almost an absence of this effect on dpoole's. I believe this to be incomplete metal flow into this area of the coin. This is just my observation as I see this on many Lincoln's.

merz2 · June 22, 2003 11:40AM

I must admit,I like dpoole's better.Like my wife,I wouldn't kick etheir one out of bed for eating crackers though.

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