Is there something fishy here???

millennium

This is weird..cracked out of the slab, but going to put it in another?....I swear I see a "D" under the date too..

1922 plain?? Really??

airplanenut

ICG bagged it, put into a CW slab... whether it's the same coin, though...

lordmarcovan

Well, most if not all 1922 "plain" Lincolns will show a ghost of a "D", I believe. That might be more than a ghost. Hard to tell from the crummy picture.

It probably was never cracked out of any slab- ICG didn't slab it. The Coin World "slab" is just a plastic do-it-yourself holder.

FC57Coins

How conveniently fuzzy huh?

clw54

<< <i>Well, most if not all 1922 "plain" Lincolns will show a ghost of a "D", I believe. That might be more than a ghost. Hard to tell from the crummy picture.

It probably was never cracked out of any slab- ICG didn't slab it. The Coin World "slab" is just a plastic do-it-yourself holder. >>


The strong reverse shouldn't have any trace of a D.

tporreca

Does not appear to even be a Strong Reverse even if it is legit... which I seriously doubt.... FAKE!

Dog97

Several models of the No D show a faint D as they are merely filled dies. The true No D had the D completely removed by overpolishing a clashed obv die which was paired with a new rev die, thus the No D/Strong Rev.
So I'd say that certificate doesn't go with that coin.

Trooper

Ok Folks
Can you please tell me more about the faint "d". What are your opionoins on this one?
Thanks Tom

All three pics are of the same coin. I brightened up the first pic

goose3

That first coin is certainly not a true die pair 2 "no D" coin. I can tell that from the date alone. More than likely it is just a "weak D" 1922

I can't make out much on the last picture.

millennium

Here are the diagnostics I gathered from the internet on the 1922.......The Die 2 version is the rarer collected of the three states.

Die Pair #1:
Second 2 in date is weaker than the first 2.
First T in TRUST is smaller and more distinct than the other letters.
WE is very mushy.
Reverse is very weak, usually with no lines in the wheat ears.

Die Pair #2:
Second 2 in date is sharper than the first 2.
All letters in TRUST are sharp.
WE is only slightly mushy.
L in LIBERTY butts up against the rim.
Reverse is sharp.

Die pair #3:
Second 2 in date is weaker than first 2.
TRUST is weak but sharper than IN GOD WE.
L in LIBERTY butts up against the rim.
Reverse is weak -- lower left part of O in ONE begins to spread into the field as the die deteriotates.

Trooper

Mill
Are the 3 die pairs you mentioned reffering to a "plain" 1922 or a 1922 D.

The coin I have looks like it is a die pair 3 because of the L in liberty against the rim, But the "t" in trust is smaller and more distinct and a little offset downward from the rest of the letters which it then could be a die pair 1. Tho "o" in one on the reverse is a little mushed out around the 7 to 9 o'clock position.

Might it be something worth looking into or is somebody going to bust my bubble?

Thanks!!
Tom

Dog97

It looks like I see a faint D, the 2nd 2 is bad so there should be a die crack from the O in ONE CENT to L in PLURIBUS making it the less desirable model.

millennium

"Mill ...Are the 3 die pairs you mentioned reffering to a "plain" 1922 or a 1922 D."


That info refers to all the 1922 "plain" cents...Dies 1 and 3 are the weak "D" versions...Die state 2 is the rare desirable version with the strong reverse and no "D". The others have a weak reverse and "should" not go for a big premium...the problem is that a lot of collectors don't really know the difference, and cause the price of the weak reverse to be excessive and are getting a coin that is overpriced...