What would you do if all US coin values tripled overnight?
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All other things being equal, what would you do if (for no reason whatsover) all US coin values tripled overnight? Assume that you know that prices will remain at the new levels for the next year.
Would you sell your collection?
Would you stop buying?
Would you collect something else?
Would you feel richer? Poorer?
Would you sell your collection?
Would you stop buying?
Would you collect something else?
Would you feel richer? Poorer?
Andy Lustig
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However.....after the next year (where Andy mentions prices would remain about the same).....i would be looking for the type of collapse of 1980 in prices and start buying again.
There are just a few i might hang onto regardless. My 1877 MS64RB Indian would be one of those......as i know i could never replace the super look of that coin in that "grade"......let alone a MS66RB. PCGS messed this one up for sure, and i'm saying that with my wallet even when i would be staring at a 10K plus profit according to Andy's scenario. These in any high grade are just going to be SO hard to replace in years to come......add in super eye appeal and it's a no brainer. (now if i'm homeless and need to eat.........i might be pursuaded to sell! () (<-----notice the huge hoop earrings so popular today?)
The 1915 PF68 Barber half i'm on the fence about........that'll represent a whole lot of dough to a guy like me! Nice down payment on a house for sure......
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Wisconsin, you took my answer. Sell em all and buy 3 times as many when they're back to normal.
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What would YOU do?
I would sell with a big fat smile on my face.
when values came down I would buy again.
emotionally attached to today and would not look back. In due time I
I would probably start collecting again. The second time around
I am reasonably certain I would not focus on 20th century coins but
instead take a fresh new look at 19th century coins.
If Reed Hawn could do it, I can too.
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I think i'd sell everything except my best 2 or 3 pieces and at 3 x money, pay off the house, but just like i did for 10 years after 89, i wouldn't buy any more coins at those levels. Les
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The way things are going right now with the flood of new collectors and some of my generation returning to the hobby both happening at the same time this is a realistic possibility.
However, even if the market was up 3 times tomorrow, I dont know if I would ever sell at market level. I might want moon money over that 3 times level to part with my coins.
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I'd be elated if silver went to $5.50.
But yea, I would be an even stronger seller.
Got quoins?
tripled? sell sell sell
quadrupled? you get the pic
Everyone has their price. Everyone.
For example, if I collected US coins, I might collect the following things, and all would be worth owning at triple:
Colonials: New Jerseys, Vermonts and Massachusetts Silver
Patterns: True experimental pieces like the 1896 cents and nickels
Hard Times tokens
1866 Shield nickels by die variety and die state (Yes, I'm serious.)
I do collect world coins. I'd sell very few of them if they tripled.
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Call my stockbroker! Say :Nyaaah nyaaah nyaaah. Lord it over the neighbors. Call my damn brother-in-law. Start STRUTTING!
Then SELL! To the Chinese who have just used the money we send em boatloads of for gizmos to buy the country.
Actually I ....DID .....that in the eighties. Buyin back a lil now.
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I'd probably sell out all of my U.S. coins and start on the Dark Side myself. I'm becoming a convert. I'm learning that foreign issues just plain beat the pants off of ours for beauty.
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<< <i> if I'm a seller at triple, I'm probably collecting the wrong coins today.
>>
so what would be the magic multiple for you?
and yes, i'd sell out so quick my head would be spinning.
z
Sell?? Why, they aren't eating anything and if I did sell then I wouldn't have them. Nope, I want my coins not the money.
who is going to buy the available avalanche of coins.
Increased supply , decreased demand equals lower prices.
This is a hypothetical question that is impractical, improbable
and impossible. The only way this could happen would be in the case
of hyperinflation which would rapidly devalue money and inflate
the price of hard assets in a zero sum game.
Camelot
Depending on the coins, some as low 3X, most around 5X, and some around 10X.
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usually what is actually the case. Pressure builds on prices for years before
there is a responce in the price guides and to the uninitiated the prices appear
to have exploded. In actuality what happens is that coins bring increasing
percentages of bid and eventually increasing premiums to ask. Then when the
price guides begin upping the retail prices to reflect this, it will look like prices
soared.
Coin world listed an '83-P quarter in MS-65 for $5 back in '99. At the time there
weren't many of these trading but virtually all buyers and sellers knew that this
was not a $5 coin. Prices tended to be set by negotiation and at higher levels.
Today they list it for $63. Todays coin would have to be slabbed to bring this mon-
ey and could again actually sell for more if a pleasing example. While this coin may
have actually increased more than 10x since '99, its true increase has been much
more uniform than any price guide would indicate.
Just a couple more doublings in prices, and it may be time to start dabbling with sell-
ing this type of material. (if not this particular coin)
So unless they are super rich and money no longer matters (or they are retired and have "everything they need"),
they would sell most coins if the coins appreciated far beyond the range they usually buy in.
I would definitely sell most coins if they all tripled in value en masse.
If just a few tripled I would probably let them be exceptions in my collection.
How could you not take advantage of the piece of mind of not having a house payment if you had the opportunity?
Also I would keep collecting if I could. That is if I could still buy what I think are attractive coins for the price range I have
established I probably would. I've been spoiled by collecting mint state pieces so if all I could afford is EF45 then I probably
wouldn't collect. If I went from MS65 pieces to MS63 that might be OK. Maybe I would find a new series that is less expensive.
-KHayse
I guess you mean pre-1964 US coins. Otherwise, there is no gain
If my coins rise in value, but every other coin does also, I certainly can't take profit and then collect a better quality of coin or a key date. My collection is not benefitted at all.
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<< <i>I'd probably sell out all of my U.S. coins and start on the Dark Side myself. I'm becoming a convert. I'm learning that foreign issues just plain beat the pants off of ours for beauty. >>
Shhh-h-h-h!!! You'll start the rush early -- and I don't have any Cedars of Lebanon in stock yet!
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Then I could take a trip to the UK and Buy Buy Buy.
09/07/2006