1975 Topps Baseball Uncut Sheet

Wabittwax

I know there was a thread a few weeks ago about 1975 Uncut sheets and how they looked. I came across this auction on EBay for anyone who hasn't seen it.

Uncut Sheet

Of course these are mini's, I wonder if the Schmidt is in the same place on the sheet for the regular 1975 Topps. Also notice that Joe Lis is on the top of the sheet as well. That's 2 cards that are really tough 9's. I can't identify all of them on the top row, but I wonder if they are all low pop cards. Interesting to study.

Wabittwax

Here's also a 1978 sheet for anyone that's interested in looking at that.

Uncut Sheet

Wabittwax

And a 1972 Sheet

Uncut Sheet

srs1a

Very interesting and consistent with mcastaldi's thoughts that a card at the top/bottom of the sheet would explain MS's curious 75 Schmidt. It looks like the 75 sheets were a bit simpler than the '63's -- I still love the upside down cards on the 63 sheet!

mikeschmidt

I'm not sure that the 1975 Topps baseball uncut sheet does explain my "curious" 1975 Topps Mike Schmidt card, which, as you may recall, was graded PSA 9 MINT MISCUT. The card that I have has a bright yellow band across the top of the card, above the green. From a review of the sheet pictured and sold by The ToppsVault, there is no way that the Schmidt card could have a yellow band across the top, based upon the placement of the card in the top row of the sheet (e.g. with no yellow-bordered card above it)

Here was my original post with the picture of the "curious" miscut 1975 Schmidt card

mcastaldi

I agree with MS. . .when I looked at the three uncut 75 sheets I have pictures of, the outside edge is white - not blue or yellow, etc.

I think it's also important to note a distinction in some of the sheets Wabbit provided links to -

The 75 Mini and 78 sheets are proof sheets - used by Topps in the initial design stage to find errors, correct color problems, etc. I'd have to believe the layout of a proof sheet would be subject to change when the sheet went to production.

The 72 sheet seems to be an acutal production sheet based on the description. While the backs of the 72 sheet are blank, this is exactly as Topps laid them out during the production runs.

Mike

srs1a

So, I guess the mystery remains a mystery.

mcastaldi -- Are the sheets that you've examined compiled in the same way as the "proof" sheet? That is, have they arranged the cards that border each other (top to bottom) to have the same top color (on the bottom row) and the same bottom color (in the row above it)....as in the proof sheet? In short, are the cuts made through the same color as in the '63 sheet? If so, how could the yellow band be generated?

I think this is where the discussion started, and now it's gone full circle!

mcastaldi

srs1a> "That is, have they arranged the cards that border each other (top to bottom) to have the same top color (on the bottom row) and the same bottom color (in the row above it)"

With the 75 set, I can't imagine them doing it any other way. The point I was trying to make was that when looking at a proof sheet, the specific cards may well be in a different arrangement. That is that a card on the edge of a proof sheet could potentially end up in the middle of a production sheet.

Mike

srs1a

Mike, I agree with you completely. I don't have a ton of '75's, but fair fraction of the ones that I have suffer from diamond cut and centering issues. If the sheet layout is anything other than what we see on the proof sheet, I would expect to see a good number of cards with bits and pieces of other colors on them -- but, I don't. So how did Mr. Schmidt end up with a yellow stripe on top? I thought that being at the top of the sheet was a good possibility, but it seems that the border is white. So, again, the mystery remains a mystery. Hmmmmm
Scott

Fuzz

Let me see if I can shed a bit of hope for soving this mystery. I have a 75 uncut production sheet in the pile in the basement. I dug it out this morning, it does not have a Schmidt on it that I saw looking quickly but I mostly checked the top row only (though memory tells me it is a Seaver sheet-- not a Schmidt). Anyway, the top row of cards is green on top and yellow on bottom (Sal Bando is on the top row if that helps). Across the top of the sheet is a blue strip about 1/4" wide above the green area. It extends past the edges of the first/last cards in the top row by a 1/4" or so as well. All three other borders are white. It appears the strip was printed there intentionally. Don't blue and yellow make green? It doesn't seem inconceivable that some strips would be blue and some yellow but it does hinge on Schmidt being a top row card. That may be a hint as to how such a thing could happen.
Fuzz

mcastaldi

Fuzz> Actually, the way I understand a multi-color printing process that would make perfect sense. That essentially one color sits on top of another and on top of another and the blend yields the final result - which is how the finished card actually looks. Perhaps someone here who works in the printing industry can shed some light on this.

Mike

helionaut

The sheet linked to in the top of the thread is a mini sheet, with a layout of 11x6. I imagine the sheets had a different layout for 110 or 132 regular cards.

packCollector

don't know for sure how the colors are laid out but there was another tread going on the 63 sheets at lelands and the cards were flipped upside down in every othere row so that the color portion was together. i would assume the same color top and bottom card would be matched on the 75 sheet

mcastaldi

packcollector> Using the links provided by wabbitwax for the 75 mini sheet, that's how every sheet of 75s has been laid out that I've ever seen.

Mike