Is there any excitement over the 2003 Registry Awards?

relayer · June 2, 2003 12:39PM

Is anyone anticipating winning any?

halfnut · June 2, 2003 9:08PM

If I may borrow a line from a fellow poster ---- Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

CarsonCityGold · June 2, 2003 11:19PM

The real question is how many are waiting till the last day to update their sets?? Don't want to tip your hand early. What if the PCGS servers got overloaded and shut down on the last day? Could be interesting.

CarlWohlforth · June 3, 2003 12:35AM

I had one last year. This year I downgraded while others upgraded. So I'm out of the running.

DAM · June 3, 2003 12:45AM

When is the cutoff date?

Like CCG said, it'll be interesting to see the snipers come out of the woodwork.

Keyrock · June 3, 2003 1:00AM

does it really matter

dpoole · June 3, 2003 4:26AM

Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

CarsonCityGold · June 3, 2003 8:08AM

June 30th is the cut-off date. Of course it matters, if not, there would not be 6,690 sets registered and prices for top pops would not be where they are.

Legend · June 3, 2003 10:32AM

I dunno, do you build your collections for the passion of collecting, or to win awards?

I personally am NOT a fan of having awards handed out every year. IMHO ANY collection built is special. I think havings one name (or whatever they call their set) acknowledged would be enough.

mdwoods · June 3, 2003 10:46AM

I want a parade with ticker tape.

It will be a fun time and people will interact more, but just being in the Registry is cool. It doesn't matter where your set/s ranks. Hi Laura it was nice talking to you and Steve at Long Beach. As always, your coins were fantastic. mdwoods

CarsonCityGold · June 3, 2003 10:16PM

Can't speak for everyone, but as someone who's over 50 and been collecting since childhood, its obviously a passion. That's not to say that I, and every other collector, don't appreciate a pat on the back for our efforts. The PCGS awards are a great way of doing just that (as well as a great marketing tool). Later, CCG

boiler78 · June 4, 2003 10:50AM

I didn't realize they were doing them again this year.

Russ · June 4, 2003 11:10AM

<< <i>I dunno, do you build your collections for the passion of collecting, or to win awards? >>

There is nothing wrong with being rewarded for that passion.

Of course, I'm never going to win an award so, on second thought, the idea is stupid.

Russ, NCNE

PQpeace · June 4, 2003 12:07PM

I won't be winning anything...
guys ahead of me just have too much cash..
Winning anything here has nothing to do with talent or anything like that..

all about money who has the most money to spend on coins.

Just collect for yourself if it makes you happy !!

Larry

nucklehead · June 4, 2003 1:28PM

<< <i>I won't be winning anything...
guys ahead of me just have too much cash..
Winning anything here has nothing to do with talent or anything like that..

all about money who has the most money to spend on coins.

Just collect for yourself if it makes you happy !!

Larry >>

FrattLaw · June 4, 2003 2:50PM

Larry's statement just goes to show you that no matter what someone is always a little ahead of you no matter who you are, how much money you have or how nice your coins are.

He has some of the nicest Peace $ that I would give me right arm for and here he is saying that the guy above him has too much money to compete against. Sad to say, but it kinda makes me feel better about my set. And it just goes to show that we all strive to have the nicest sets.

Michael

PQpeace · June 4, 2003 2:57PM

Hi Fratt,
hope all is well..
This is more of a game than a competition..

when I play tennis,that is competition...
or when I restore a car..
but in this game,it is ALL about money..that is why I really don't think the registry is a good idea for most people..
It is an uneven competition..
Fratt...if you have a great eye and the time to travel all over the country to buy coins...none of that matters if you don't have enough money to buy the coins you want or need..

that is why it is so important to buy coins you like and that make you happy..
time for bed

Larry

Zerbe · June 5, 2003 2:06AM

scher · June 5, 2003 2:12AM

hope i am still tops in my area's..3 cents proof and mint state nickels..proof walkers and mercury and barber dimes and classic commems.
bruce scher

cosmicdebris · June 5, 2003 5:54AM

I just hope that a set that I have been waiting for 2 years to register gets put up before then.

psxchelly · June 5, 2003 6:48AM

I already gave myself a certificate for my #2 and #3 set.

I dont have the 5 grand to upgrade now. I will wait until summer when the prices go down.

michelle

Cocoinut · June 5, 2003 9:19AM

Yawn, I expect to win as many awards as last year - NONE! Not that I wouldn't mind, but I can't afford coins of the caliber that will win in the sets I'm working on. The granting of awards is a non-event for most of us, but I'd sure like to see pictures of all the sets that win.

Jim

RegistryCoin · June 5, 2003 12:32PM

I expect to win none. Last year I won a lot. I still love it.
ps. Those who are still behind me are cool. But those who are ahead of me have too much money, don't care about quality, just buy plastic, etc...La dee da...

scher · June 6, 2003 8:23AM

o brother
bruce scher

PQpeace · June 6, 2003 9:01AM

Here we go

can't wait to get to the ANA and debate this one

See you there Bruce,
Larry

RegistryCoin · June 6, 2003 10:55AM

I trust you guys "get it".

Who cares if you, or I, or anyone else had "this much" money and somebody had more...
If a collector has a better collection, then my hat is off to them... Plain and simple.
I cannot give enough regards to two collectors who have "bettered" me.
Many kudos to all, but special kudos to the top of the '46-'64 Silver MS Roosies and the 50 pc. Type Commem. guys.
Nick and Bruce: Hearty Congratulations. You have my ultimate respect.
Sincerely,
Steve

Bigern · June 6, 2003 11:26AM

I think Larry(PQpeace) said it all. IMHO its not a matter of winning an award but buying an award. The rich get richer.

Bigern

raycyca · June 6, 2003 11:45AM

My award was granted in 2001. That's when I completed for my first PCGS Kennedy set. That was my goal. Now I'm trying to get upgrades but at reasonable prices. I can't buy food with the award certificates but I can with the money that the upgrades cost. I can but a car with what some of the upgrades cost for a top rated set. I'm not that shallow but do appreciate the coins for how hard they are to "make". I wouldn't want the job of Wondercoin or Datentype but appreciate the fruits of their harvest. Do they have pity awards? At least the PCGS registry gives me some drive to complete and upgrade as I'll probably forget without the registry and the coins would sit in a box somewhere vs a safety deposit box. That's just my 50 cents. Ray

RegistryCoin · June 6, 2003 12:24PM

I think that it is very unfair, mean and unfounded to say that a better set is "a matter of buying an award".

raycyca · June 6, 2003 12:37PM

I'm NOT actually saying you're buying an award, per sey. Actually, if you have the bucks, you can drop Mitch, etc. a line and tell him what set you want an award in. Sit back and depending on what series, they will get back to you with either a complete set or piecemeal depending on your arrangement with an awrad winning set. I'd rather collect them one by one and "weed out" the coins for a nice looking set that I can say I put together. I,m sure some people can give you examples of sets put together "overnight" that are highly if not top ranked sets. I tip my hats to those with top sets. I'm not jealous about the top sets but I can't justify personnaly putting out the bucks for those coins for top spot. I didn't insinuate you "bought an award" and hope you didn't take it that way. You have nice coins and I'm sure you appreciate them. Congratulations on your award and hope you get many more. Just my 50 cents. Ray

RegistryCoin · June 6, 2003 12:41PM

It would be interesting to "put out the bucks" and find out if it is as easy as one might think...

tradedollarnut · June 6, 2003 1:23PM

It is NOT only about money. It is also about opportunity, perserverence, luck, ability and access. All those things that make numismatics bedeviling!

relayer · June 6, 2003 1:29PM

If you are competing in the Registry, money is a big factor since obvisously the nicest coins cost the most.

I know there are people out in the world that have more money than me, and people who will spend more than me for coins so I'm not in competition for the top spots.

If it was just about money, then Bill Gates could dwarf every number one set if he wanted to "buy" an award, or McDonalds could build McCoin collections.

Instead, it's collectors who build the top sets - because they enjoy their collections. And because life ain't fair, some people have more resources than others. But everybody from the bottom to the top enjoys their collection and the hobby.

So I think it's fun to go through the sets after the awards and see what the best collections (in terms of PCGS) are for all of the different series. I hope they all have pictures up

RegistryCoin · June 6, 2003 1:30PM

...timing, being a gentleman, knowledge, researching, risking, failing, trying again... There is much.

wondercoin · June 6, 2003 4:27PM

"timing, being a gentleman, knowledge, researching, risking, failing, trying again... There is much. "

RC summed it up nicely. RC is a true gentleman and I have no doubt he could "order up" a top Registry set in myriad areas with just one phone call. He's got "favors" owed to him all over the place!

BUT, he built his monumental 144 pc. Hall of Fame winning Silver Commem set one coin at a time over many years. RC had 13 active world class registry sets going in 2000 when PCGS was still deciding if there was money in their budget to print a paperback listing of the Registry sets/winners (RWhite, remember that fiasco?) RC volunteered to personally pick up the tab for PCGS to print as many copies as were needed for every Registry set particpant to get one. Man, have we and the "registry" come a long way since early 2000!

Wondercoin

lava · June 6, 2003 11:31PM

<< <i> ...but in this game,it is ALL about money..that is why I really don't think the registry is a good idea for most people..
It is an uneven competition...Larry >>

Now here is an opinion with which I respecfully disagree. My analogy is to running, and yes, I am a runner. There is only going to be one winner in the truest sense, so should everyone just not sign up to compete? I think many runners have learned to appreciate that you can have a lot of enjoyment competing against yourself, and gain a lot of satisfaction knowing on race day you did the very best you could.

There are quality collections that, while they may not be number one, so what, they are quality collections in any event, and your collections Larry are a case in point.

I think the registry is a great idea for a lot of people, maybe not the people who can only afford the lesser conditioned coins, say in the case of morgans, coins below ms60, and as the years get more common maybe coins below ms63 or 64, but for most of us, the registry works, and I think that while many of us can not compete to be number one because we can't afford to spend a certain amount on each coin (say 1,000), we can get satisfaction knowing we have put together a heck of a collection on a budget (say 300 a coin).

If you have amassed a collection of quality coins that you enjoy, and that others respect (particularly people with similar financial constraints), haven't you won?

Back to running, the satisfaction for many as they did the best they could on race day, and if you do that, believe me, you feel like a winner. So registry sets that aren't number one are still an accomplishment.

Besides, the registry is a bit of a tongue in cheek thing anyway. The PCGS set doesn't recognize NGC for example, so to say you have won the PCGS registry race is like saying you are the fastest person wearing Nike shoes, or the best golfer playing with a Nike golfball. I take satisfaction knowing that even though I don't get credit, I have some knock your socks off coins in NGC and ANACS slabs, and if I were to play the re-slabbing game, I may move up a few notches and pass your sorry butt on the registry.

I hope everyone reading this sees the good natured spirit behind this comment and nothing mean-spirited.

On another point, the registry system is a bit arbitrary. Compare my morgan pl set (#5) with that of the person ahead of me (#4). I think if given the choice, nearly everyone would take the #4 set, as it is loaded with dmpls, and is actually much further ahead than the points would suggest (which is reflected by the way on the NGC registry).

Bigern · June 7, 2003 1:42AM

It is ironic that each post to this thread whether pro or con, always comes back to "its the money". Now dont get me wrong I do think that RegistryCoin has a good point that you can enter a race and hope to do a personal best but this is a little more involved than that. With coin's it all comes down to one thing in the end doesnt it? A meeting of the minds on a selling price dictated by supply and demand.

scher · June 7, 2003 3:25AM

the money helps but ...im completely with tradedollar and registry..it takes so much more..gotta find the right coins..time ..always looking..coins that are raw..coins that might cross..typically but not always a pcgs coin is of higher quality and to be the best is something worthy..i have several sets that are less than half done because the right coins just havent been found..when i make a number 1 set i am proud of the accomplishment and feel good.. you get more shots too at the real quality coins if you are fair and easy to deal with like the 2 mentioned in their posts..
bruce scher

Robgetty · June 7, 2003 4:23AM

You can't say that you can only have a number one set with a lot of money.
I currently own the #1 current finest set for half soverigns (Victoria Rev W/die number)
Now granted, I am the only person who has a set registered in that category, but
what the heck!!! I'm number one, and can print out a page showing that to remember
the achievement for ever and ever. (Who knows, maybe someday I'll double the size
of that collection by buying a second coin for it.)

RegistryCoin · June 7, 2003 12:27PM

<< <i>...in 2000 when PCGS was still deciding if there was money in their budget to print a paperback listing of the Registry sets/winners (RWhite, remember that fiasco?) RC volunteered to personally pick up the tab for PCGS to print as many copies as were needed for every Registry set particpant to get one. Man, have we and the "registry" come a long way since early 2000! >>

This is a true story. (There were a few less registrants then, but the point was made, and Rick M. did publish a booklet for all to enjoy)
But the story gets funnier. I hope pcgs has a sense of humor, so here goes. This was '99/2000 and the internet was getting underway... I wanted to have my reg. set(s) named with one that at least my parents would recognize, but didn't want to advertise my actual name. I chose to either use the name, The RegistryCoin.com sets or the PCGSWholsale.com sets, but a person at pcgs, Matt, in charge of the registry, forbade a reference to a "dot com". There were many emails sent back and forth debating the issue of "dot coms" in the pcgs registry, and it was decided by pcgs that those who like to be associated with a dot com would have to "initialize" their name/reduce it, to a "non-descript" level to be accepted. PCGS agreed to allow PW.C, which stood, in their minds as PCGSWholesale.com, only. Adopting this acronym, and, among us, affectionately calling it "puss-y-whipped.com, we most humbly accepted. Now, I think that there is only one PW.C registrant, I admire his stick-to-it-iveness.

wondercoin · June 7, 2003 12:53PM

Steve: Those days seem like a decade or two ago and it was just a couple years ago!! Imagine roughly 50-100 sets in the Registry, as opposed to 6700+!

That was so funny - you had told your parents you had been working fevorishly on a collection of coins that was going to become the ALL-TIME greatest set assembled and that it would be under your website name. They were planning to visit you and you were all exxited about showing them the PCGS Registry Book with your set in it. First, curveball #1 - no book would be published (finally worked that one out - Ryan W, can tell that story). Then, the second curveball. PCGS said no website names in the Registry and the best they would accept is "PW.C1" for your set! I'll never forget you asking me "how will my parents even know it is my set with that name" and I had no answer for you!! It was really fun back then!!

Wondercoin

RegistryCoin · June 7, 2003 12:59PM

It was really fun, and it still is!
I still love to hear all the stories, even if I cannot be a part of them.
Thanks for what does seem like decades of fun!!!

PQpeace · June 7, 2003 2:00PM

Cool stories..

I detect a few very serious registry collectors here !
I bet Registry Coin's coins would make me light headed by their beauty..same goes for Bruce..
You guys are like me, as I choose every single coin as it is a keeper..
We are real collectors...

there are MANY registry participants who collect slabs,and their coins are ugly..I have seen tons of them..
and there are other guys who have tons of cash and buy any slab just to be # 1..
Those are the guys who want to flex their egos and want to be # 1 at something..
most of the guys on this forum are real collectors,and care about what their coins look like..
Keep up the good work, and do it for yourselves...not for awards..
Larry

RegistryCoin · June 7, 2003 2:06PM

Thanks Larry!. Don't get me/us wrong. Getting the right coin at the right time can be a real boost to the ego, but that coin and attaining it is just a part of a long and fun process.
Thanks again.

braddick · June 7, 2003 2:13PM

I'm still waiting for "popone" to weigh in with his opinion

, but, until he does: I collect in a Registry fashion that prevents the need to worry about competition. Works for me, and it's fun (without a large cash outlay!).

onlyroosies · June 7, 2003 2:17PM

Steve, Your a Gentleman and a scholar, I thank you for the kind words and though we have never met face to face
I have always admired you for your great accomplishments with your coin collecting and consider you a friend. I've
never compared your great sets with money. I know how much work is put into building a world class set, believe
me I know I work my set. Its like Bruce said, Its the hunt for quality coins weither that be by searching out undergraded
coins or high end raw coins or knowing what to look for when making a determination weither an NGC coin will cross.
Thats what makes it fun and rewarding and what a bonus I've received out of it all. The bonus is all the great people
I've met through coin collecting. THANK YOU ALL

onlyroosies
Nick

RegistryCoin · June 7, 2003 2:20PM

Thank you Nick. Roosies are great! I include you in a small group of special friends I too have never met. ( I want to hear from Danny

)
Pat: You have the prescription for perspicacity, perserverence, and prosperity.

wondercoin · June 7, 2003 2:23PM

Steve: You are really "p"ing in the wind tonight!

Wondercoin

PQpeace · June 7, 2003 2:25PM

Nick,
that roosie on your icon is awesome

Larry

I have a set of raw Roosies that I plucked out of original rools 25 years ago..they have been in my album toning ever since..
maybe someday one of them will look like yours

Larry

RegistryCoin · June 7, 2003 2:27PM

...alliteration can be fun...

Is there any excitement over the 2003 Registry Awards?

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