Any lovers of Modern Commems out there?

FrattLaw

I just bought a couple of Wayte Raymond large dollar boards and I think I might do a complete modern commem $ set. Is there anyone here who has a complete set. From the mintages it looks like these coins have an excellent chance of a future rise in value. They still seem pretty cheap and I'm guessing in the era of ugly coin designs, that in 50 years someone will want to collect something of beauty from the turn of the century and the only real choice they'll have are commems.

I'm going to do it in BU/MS raw coins only. Are there good places to buy raw commems from? Anyone else want to speculate whether I'm right or will I be sitting a big heap of valueless coins with pretty toning in 10 years.

Do you think the Mint will end the era of the modern commems, or will it just continue ad infinitum?

By the way, does anyone know the exact number of modern $1 commems there are?

Thanks
Michael

zenny

<< <i> Anyone else want to speculate whether I'm right or will I be sitting a big heap of valueless coins with pretty toning in 10 years.

Do you think the Mint will end the era of the modern commems, or will it just continue ad infinitum?

By the way, does anyone know the exact number of modern $1 commems there are?

Thanks
Michael >>



sounds like a good idea, not too expensive and even if they don't skyrocket in value, although i think there's a very good chance they will, you will have one cooool collection of nice commems.

exact number i don't know, but somewhere around 45-50, if you just take one of each type.

my question for you - where are you getting the wayte raymond boards?

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BSqr

By the way, does anyone know the exact number of modern $1 commems there are?

I believe there are 50 different MS $1 commems. Most in 69 can be had for $60 or less. I would estimate that 1/4 of them would cost $100+ per coin in MS69.

Here is the set composition list

FC57Coins

Michael:

Board Member "FiveCents" has a pretty extensive collection of modern commems and is pretty knowledgeable about them - you might drop him a pm when you get a chance.

Frank

ClausUrch

FrattLaw:

Nice idea! I currently have a set of half dollar commemoratives in a Wayte Raymond board waiting to tone. Don't think that you will be able to pick this set up for cheap. The 1996 commem.'s alone will run you in the 1,000. range; raw. There is not much of a price difference between slabbed MS69's and raw nice BU's with their original government packaging.

dpoole

I've been collecting the set since the moderns began with the Washington Commem in 1982. I got them simply as a collector, since the earlier moderns were being cranked out as long as people were buying, and the mintages were high. Obviously, people saved all that were bought, and presumably nearly the entire runs are preserved some where in the condition they were sold. It was not until people began complaining (justifiably) that the charges and the high mintages were creating rip-offs for people. It was not until 1994 or so that the Mint got the message, and began tempering their runs. Consequently, most of the issues that have appreciated well were produced after that date.

I've enjoyed accumulating the whole modern commemorative series, though. Amidst some classically ugly coins (like the Shiver half--which may be a collectible in itself since it's so astoundingly ugly) there are some really neat-looking issues IMO, such as the Soccer World Cup, the Civil War Battlefields, the Flame Brazier from the 1996 Olympics, the Dolley Madison, the 1999 Washington, the Library of Congress bimetal, the Buff, the West Point Commem, etc.

The lower issues and more interesting/popular themes (Jackie Robinson, Law Enforcement) have already been appreciating, and will continue to do so, I think. Mass mintages such as the 1982 Washington will almost certainly always keep those values down, since they don't circulate and get worn/lost.

wingedliberty

My collection of PCGS/NGC modern commems in formidable with about half of the examples complete starting with the 1982 Washington halves. MS/PF69 examples of the early Olympic coins are getting harder and harder.

Brian.

flaminio

I'm working on my modern commemorative set -- I'm up to 57 of what I consider to be an 84 coin set. Click the link in my sig to see my progress. And if you happen upon an 82-D Washington in an ANACS 69 holder, do let me know .

DenverCoin

Howdy,

Tulving has a pretty complete list of mintages, and can be found here.

John

tgilliams

great coins. i own 95 pcgs/ngc commemoratives. as stated above, the price of raw vs. slabbed is rather small. don't understand why you would buy them raw. much more potential for appreciation in certified comm's. never saw a real market for AT comm's.

IMHO putting them in waite raymond to tone is just a slow way of artificially toning coins, since the only reason to put these coin in WR is to tone an otherwise beautiful coins. any introduction of a foreign substance for specific reason of toning a coin is the same as torching it, but much slower. not very efficent.

FrattLaw

As for the WR boards, I just think that most people in 10-20 years will have brillant, encapusalted modern commems with little or no toning, due to the Registry craze, and their coins will be "run of the mill". Imagine if all of my coins were MS68 & MS69s with beautiful rainbow, wayte raymond toning. I think they would be extremely unique and would command a premium if ever sold. Furthermore, I don't believe placing a coin in an album and waiting for a decade or two for the toning to appear makes them AT. I like the look and feel of coins in an album. Some or all of them might not tone, it's a chance. Therefore I have done nothing to insure and speed the process like actually applying chemicals or heat to the coin.

Michael

DoubleDime

When the program started I was collecting each half dollar and silver dollar in proof. It was easy as there was just one program each year. 1991 started multiple issues followed by some unattractive designs. I couldn't really afford to keep up with them all so I started picking and choosing. If I liked the design or the program I would get the coin. Yet lately I've been losing interest with these modern commems thinking that maybe I shouldn't have started in the first place, just stick to the regular issues. I have sold some but kept the ones I really like. For any future issues I'll continue to pick and choose, if I decide to get any.
However the modern commems I do enjoy are the Canadian Silver Dollars. There are some really attractive designs plus they're less expensive as well to keep up with. I get the BU ( Specimen ) coins to have a matching set from 1971.

Toningintheblood

Michael, I am in charge of modern commems at Spectrum. I can get them for you. I can also talk to you more about them at Sunday's show. Dale