Ike dollar survey emailed

BJ · May 15, 2003 6:56AM

I just emailed out a survey regarding the addition of the 1972 varieties to the Registry to all members who currently have a IKE dollar CS set with at least 50% completion. I received some bounced emails, so if you did not get the survey, please email me directly at bj@collectors.com.

Thanks.

braddick · May 15, 2003 7:03AM

I can only assume this set: http://www.pcgs.com/new_set_registry/display_coins.chtml?regsetid=7180&alltime=no
doesn't qualify for the survey?

GRANDAM · May 15, 2003 7:22AM

I got my e-mail.

I voted YES on the varieties with a Basic & a Variety Set.

Thanks, GrandAm

jcping · May 15, 2003 7:42AM

Email replied. My vote is YES.

misterR · May 15, 2003 11:11AM

I vote YES also.

segoja · May 15, 2003 11:34AM

Pat,

With a few more additions your set will be rivaling mine!

You should get at least 3 votes...as long as you vote for including the 72-P varieities.

If you're against it, no votes!!!

How's that for bias!

segoja · May 15, 2003 11:36AM

Guess I voted yes as well for the varieties and to have two sets.

Looks to be unanimous at this stage.

Let's see how long it takes for PCGS to put this in place.

I have all three (finest known of course) ready for the slab factory.

72-P Type I 65
72-P Type II 66
72-P Type III 66

Typetone · May 15, 2003 11:38AM

Voted that PCGS should attribute and set register all three types.

Voted to have a separate basic and with varieties set.

Indicated that any of the three types should be eligible in the basic set, but if they wanted to limit to one only, use the type 3 in basic.

Greg

segoja · May 15, 2003 11:42AM

For the basic, they should allow any of the three.

Greg is correct, the Type III is the easiest in high grade.

How are other set with varieities handled.

Seems like a rarer variety should count as well.

Typetone · May 15, 2003 11:50AM

James:

There are a couple of guys who will swear that there is one 72P Type 1 in PCGS MS66 out there somewhere. Presumably Barlow's secret customer!!

Greg

braddick · May 15, 2003 11:50AM

See, that's the rub. I WOULD vote to add the Varieties and I'm a guy who generally likes to keep it simple.

slugfootball · May 15, 2003 12:08PM

Yes, I'm going to vote also for the varieties.
But why would we have two sets? Could'nt we just include the "all time"
sets with an asterisk, and any current sets with 23 coins?

Still time to change my mind, would like to hear your thoughts !!

Mike

segoja · May 15, 2003 12:21PM

Mike,

If PCGS handles other sets by only having this way, then they should do this set as well.

They need to stay consistent, which means two sets.

You would have a choice of which set to be in, or both!

segoja · May 15, 2003 12:29PM

Greg,

I know the mystrey guy, and sold his MS66 72-P Ike many years ago. In fact, I bought it and a MS65 at the same time from a source. The MS65 was nicer, so I kept it and paid for it with the profit from the MS66. Later, of course I made my first MS66 from the MS65.

Both coins are Type III's.

As I recall, we accounted for all but 1 of the 72-P's in 66.

Barlow's not sure about another client's MS66, and that's the one we can't account for.

We'll see when they start attributing.

My guess is that the Type I will prove as tough in MS65+ as the Type II. I've only seen a handful of each.

slugfootball · May 15, 2003 12:32PM

James,

Would there not be two registry sets with the same people?
"They need to stay consistent, which means two sets."
I agree, but what's the sense?

segoja · May 15, 2003 12:35PM

Mike,

Yes, folks could have two sets. This sereis should be no different than any other sets with varieties.

segoja · May 15, 2003 1:02PM

BJ,

What's the time line before you start taking coins for verification????

supercoin · May 16, 2003 1:42AM

Guess I should have registered my modest collection so I could vote.

I just want the attribution, and I don't know the details of how other registry sets are handled, but...

The 1972 Type 1 and Type 3 are not minor varieties. They have completely different reverse master hub designs, one low-relief and one high-relief. This was a major intentional change and both varieties were struck in the many millions.

In that regard, the 1972 Type 1 and Type 3 are very similar in significance to the 1976 Type 1 and Type 2 coins. So in my opinion they belong in any complete Ike collection or registry.

The 1972 Type 2, on the other hand, is an accidental/experimental variety, struck with only one die pair. It is the Ike analogy to a 3-legged Buffalo or a 1955 doubled-die Lincoln. So perhaps the Type 2 would make more sense to be an optional variety in a registry (don't know how the Buffalo or Lincolns are handled).

But again... I just want the attribution as soon as possible (preferably not posthumously). Beyond that I'm completely agreeable.

misterR · May 16, 2003 3:28AM

Supercoin, I was wondering if you had been asked to vote on this matter which you had spearheaded. Maybe now is the time to elevate the 1972 Ike PCGS Attribution Advisory to "orange"?

CoinHusker · July 16, 2003 10:47PM

To refresh our memories on BJ's email survey

jcping · July 17, 2003 8:06AM

ttt, I wish HRH or BJ could tell us what they are going to use our feedbacks.

DRG · July 18, 2003 1:51AM

Thanks for pulling back this old thread.

The way this was handeled for SBA$'s was there is only one set and it includes the only attributed variety which is the 1979P Wide Rim.

To be consistent I would expect PCGS to do the same with the Ike's and have one set that includes the 3 attributed varieties of 1972P Ike's.

CoinHusker · July 18, 2003 11:19AM

DRG,

I was fortunate to find the old thread and revive it. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. Is there 1 or 2 Ike sets in our future? Time will tell.

Ike dollar survey emailed

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