A highly unusual "guess the grade" AND designation(S): Updated with the grade/attribution
coinguy1
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Just for fun, here is a rare and unusual item (which we recently placed with a client) for your viewing pleasure and guesswork.
This one will be quite tricky, for at least a couple of reasons, which I will not divulge until later.
I will withhold comments and information about this piece until people have had time to reply.
Edited to add:
The area by the date, which appears to be discolored, is distorted by the image (perhaps due to glare or slight variation in the finish of the coin's surface) but it does not look like that in person.
This one will be quite tricky, for at least a couple of reasons, which I will not divulge until later.
I will withhold comments and information about this piece until people have had time to reply.
Edited to add:
The area by the date, which appears to be discolored, is distorted by the image (perhaps due to glare or slight variation in the finish of the coin's surface) but it does not look like that in person.
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Nice looking coin.
Tom
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Looks AU58 to me but this rarity could easily grade MS64DMPL or Prf 64 DCam but I really have no clue since I'm a Morgan man.
I appreciate the question. I know nothing about early quarter eagles so looked this date up. I learned that there are a handful of proofs known. So I will guess this is one of them. My grade guess is PR 63 Cameo.
Very berry beautiful
Edit: This is tough becuase of the size of the scan...A grader would not see this coin with as much detail..
Thus, It could be a PR 65
Did they even make a proof in 1821?
But I'm leaning toward MS-PL if there is no rub.
Regardless, a beautiful coin.
Joe.
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You've got to be kidding - how can I grade a coin from a scan?
I'll guess PR64CAM. Very nice coin.
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NGC and PCGS have each attributed three Proof examples (all 1821's) of this short lived type, which was issued only in 1821, 1824 (4 over1), 1825, 1826 (6 over 5) and 1827. I suspect that there is some duplication of the numbers represented in the Population/Census reports. Walter Breen speculated that these coins were struck in Proof to commemorate the new design for resumption of coinage of U.S. Quarter Eagles, 1808 having been the last year of the denomination until this new design appeared.
As is often the case, the images do not adequately show the coin for what it is, so for those of you who guessed wrong, you were facing very long odds. And, for anyone who guessed right - maybe you got just a little bit lucky.
This piece has deep mirror surfaces on both sides, which in the images, unfortunately, merely look darker than other areas of the coin. The Cameo effect is gorgeous and the strike is superb - look at the detail on Liberty's hair/curls on the obverse and the eagle on the reverse. There are very few hairlines or other man-made impairments, though there is a small mint-made planchet defect at the jaw area, which is characteristic of other known proofs.
People use the term "rare coin" rather loosely. THIS is a RARE coin! I have already received questions about what a coin like this sells for. It sold for between $150,000 and $200,000 this month.
Too bad I couldn't guess!
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
What he left out is that 1821 is the only date of the type that is known in Proof - that's how rare this really is!
<< <i>NGC and PCGS have each attributed three Proof examples (all 1821's) of this short lived type, which was issued only in 1821, 1824 (4 over1), 1825, 1826 (6 over 5) and 1827. >>
I guess I could have made it clearer, but I did say it.
mdwoods - lucky guess.
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ABSOLUTELY correct in my case.
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