Rosy FB Dimes....hard dates coming into focus: UPDATED

Colorfulcoins · May 12, 2003 9:24AM

Checked out the current pop's just to look-see at the "hard" FB coins after 40 days of submission results and here's what I found:

1. The 1955-S, 1958-P, and 1964D are the only 3 coins which the pop report shows 0 FB coins graded in any grade.

2. (in addition), the 1957P, 1961P, and 1963P show pop=0 at the MS67 grade (there are MS66 FB graded coins)

3. The "low pop" coins (current pop of 1 or 2): 49S, 52S, 53S, 54P, 54S, 55P, 56P, 56D, 60P, 60D, and 63D

These 17 coins represent about 1/3 of the 48-coin set. I'll keep these number and look again at the end of the month to see which are still hard coins and how hard.......especially to see if someone gets 55S, 58P, or 64D FB coin.

onlyroosies · May 12, 2003 9:33AM

Craig, The research looks good so far. There are several high powered sets that still haven't hit PCGS and until
those coins are looked at I don't think we can conclude much of anything. I'm expecting the pops for FB Roosies
to really soar over the next 2 months. As you said before.... Only time will tell.

onlyroosies

melikecoins · May 12, 2003 11:56AM

You can drop the 64-D from that list.
It is very common with FB (from what I have found)

The 57 & 58 are two keys for sure.
Same will go for the 61 & 63, but a little easier.

Glen

LucyBop · May 12, 2003 11:59AM

I have a small handful in for grading, and I'm going to submit more very soon... I have some 55s hopefuls...

Colorfulcoins · May 12, 2003 12:38PM

Just for the record, I also have a raw 58P & 55S in for grading (probably get back in July) - both are MS65/66 FB candidates...I also have another 55S waiting to go in that's got the best bands I've seen on a 55S but obv ticks will probably limit to MS65/66 grade also......

Time will tell......no doubt lots more coin will "pump up" the pop's!

Craig

quattrocoins · May 12, 2003 12:52PM

Rockin' Roosies!

wondercoin · May 12, 2003 1:00PM

I have about 10 or so 55(s) dimes in for grading - they were all close and I figured why piecemeal it- I should know in a couple weeks.

Wondercoin

onlyroosies · May 13, 2003 7:49AM

I was checking the pops today for FB Roosies and perusing sets to see who made what, I noticed that 3 different silver
sets had a 1960 MS67FB dime listed in it, yet the pops only show 1. I don't think PCGS is updating there pops to frequently.
In fact I think there way off for FB Roosie dimes and the pops shouldn't even be used as a value guide right now.

Linda Green's former Roosevelt registry set updated today with 27 MS67FB Roosies. Very nice. As I understood she was
building a high quality full band set before PCGS designated full bands. If you want to view the set click on all time finest
and you can find her set there.

Congratulations to all who have made some very nice FB Roosevelt dimes.

onlyroosies

wondercoin · May 13, 2003 8:15AM

Nick: I suspect hundreds or thousands of fresh raw Roosies are also being submitted at this point (perhaps through bulk so the lower grade coins never show up) in an effort to "cash in" on the "low pop" coins in the pop report. While I do expect to see "tons" of 66FB coins slabbed, many of the 67FB coins should remain highly collectible (at a price) and MS68FB coins incredibly sought after as many new collectors get introduced to Roosies for the first time. I doubt things will "come into focus" until sometime next year at the earliest.

Wondercoin

Colorfulcoins · May 13, 2003 8:38AM

Nick, keep in mind that a coin can be in a current set and also be in several finest known sets simultaneously. For instance, Mike Rakosky's set shows under Finest Known but his set is broken, doesn't show under Current sets, and the coins distributed and perhaps housed in current Registry sets. Since the SN is the same, if the SN shows up in several places, it perhaps due to that reason.......so adding up coins in Registry sets (Current and Finest Known) isn't a good way to cross check pop's.

onlyroosies · May 13, 2003 9:35AM

Craig, I took that into consideration and the 3 1960 MS67FB dimes were in 3 different sets that were current. I'm not
using this system to figure the pops, I'm using it to figure out when PCGS updates the FB pops.

Colorfulcoins · May 13, 2003 11:52PM

Ahhhhhh.......a good reason to be careful about jumping into the FB market today.......incomplete info. Word to the wise.......

wondercoin · May 15, 2003 2:53AM

Guys: I got back some reports on the MS67's I had in inventory and the coins did quite well. For example, I personally made the other -3- 1949(p) Roosies in MS67FB out of the current pop 4 from among the nicest 1949(p) coins I had located throughout the years. Many of the other neat 67FB coins were also from coins I submitted. I am still awaiting a few more reports, including a report on the MS69 Roosie I submitted.

Overall, I would say the grading of the FB dimes was as I expected. There are a few coins I think should have made, but didn't (yet). My sugestion to serious collectors is to not draw any conclusions on the rarity of any Roosie dates in top grade "FB" until at least early next year. For example, I may have graded -3- 1949(p) dimes in MS67FB, but it took more than a decade to find them! To conclude that date in "pop 4", for example, is easier than a current pop "2" or "3" might be an erroneous conclusion.

Wondercoin.

onlyroosies · May 15, 2003 7:49AM

It looks like all mine are done except for one batch of dimes that wasn't in my registry set. There's several tough
FB dates in this batch, 49P, 54S, 55S, 52P, 60P, and a few others. So far it looks like I'm getting the FB designation
on the coins I figured. One date I'm perplexed with is the 55D. I just found out today I made 2 55D's in MS67 but no
bands, I could of swore these 2 were full bands. They should be here in a couple days and I'll get a look at them then.

PCGS must be updating there pops once a week. I noticed they just updated again today.

Mitch, When I read your thread my heart started pounding when I read that you had an MS69 Roosie in for FB review.
It took me several seconds to realize you were talking about the clad dime you spoke of in another post. You had me
going there for a bit.

onlyroosies

Colorfulcoins · May 15, 2003 9:58AM

Nick, I was thinking the same as you.......a 1952S MS69FB..........wow, wouldn't that be something! be still my beating heart......

Colorfulcoins · May 16, 2003 6:13AM

Well, PCGS just updated pop's and there's lots of NEW full bands coins but still:

1949P MS67=4 MS66=1 5 tough KEY?
1949S MS67=4 MS66=2 6 tough KEY?

1952P MS67=4 MS66=3 7 tough
1953P MS67=3 MS66=10 13 tough in MS67
1953S MS67=2 MS66=5 7 tough in MS67
1954P MS67=1 MS66=8 9 tough in MS67
1954S MS67=1 MS66=2 3 very tough KEY?
1955P MS67=3 MS66=3 6 tough
1955S MS67=0 MS66=0 0 none so far - this appears REALLY tough KEY?
1956P MS67=3 MS66=1 4 tough KEY?
1957P MS67=0 MS66=3 3 very tough KEY?
1958P MS67=0 MS66=1 1 very very tough KEY?

1960D MS67=2 MS66=14 16 tough MS67
1961P MS67=1 MS66=5 6 tough MS67
1963P MS67=0 MS66=2 2 very tough so far KEY?
1963D MS67=2 MS66=3 5 tough
1964D MS67=0 MS66=0 0 none so far - appears REALLY tough KEY?

As has been discussed repeatedly, we still have a pretty small sample size but and this is pretty preliminary but this is how its looks today........no doubt it will change again next week.

wondercoin · May 16, 2003 6:25AM

Craig: I picked up around 50 more MS67 coins today (a significant % FB) and many of the new coins on your list appear to be the ones I picked up today.

I expect to be offering out some pieces in the near future. I'll try to shoot you and Nick over a list of them.

Wondercoin

onlyroosies · May 16, 2003 6:27AM

Mitch, that would be great, Thanks

Dimetime · May 16, 2003 6:33AM

I've got over 50 roll of BU 55-s and 55-d. Sounds like I need to look through them. 1 roll I checked looked solid FB's so maybe they aren't rare after all.

Justhavingfun · May 16, 2003 7:44PM

Hi Guys and Gals:

Am new to this. My first post.

For what it's worth, I think the full band is going to be a boon to the Roozie series. I don't have to tell you that before this, the series was too easy. It just wasn't much fun, unless you tried to put a beautifully toned set together, or went to pick off the occasional MS68s.

I think the full bands will do for the Roozies what the full steps did for the Jefferson Niks. The Jeff's would be dead meat without the full steps; too easy. But with the full steps designation, the Jefferson nickels became a fun challenge, and series boomed.

I think that now PCGS has turned the Roosies from an easy series to a challenge, it will boom, too. But, time will tell.

Nice meeting you.

Just having fun!

cladking · May 16, 2003 11:31PM

Welcome aboard Justhavingfun.

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Rosy FB Dimes....hard dates coming into focus: UPDATED

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