A comparison of three toned Washington quarters - which is bogus?

Russ

I figured this might be a good educational discussion for those of us who are still trying to learn this stuff.







One of the three is artificially toned. Which one, and why? The answer will no doubt be obvious to most, but the educational part is the discussion of "why".

Russ, NCNE

VonZipper

Russ I will go first and show my limited knowledge. The first one does'nt look natural to me and if the toning was trying to simulate bag toning the curve of the toning is backwards. Not sure but my best guess.

maddogale

The third one looks AT to me, the colors seemed "baked on".

nwcs

The first one is bogus. From what I understand, 64s usually don't tone like that. And I have a great blue quarter I'll post to show the difference between a real blue quarter (a 55) and that one. The first one is a good job, though. Also I think the red-blue shift is highly unusual and would make me suspicious. The others are more gradual and more like the colors I've seen before.

Flying56eagle

I don't know much about toning,
but I also say #1 because the toning on the reverse is on the wrong side of the obverse.
The toning is on the right side of the obv, my my guess is the toning should be on the left of the rev.
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thanks for the lesson

BNE

I will also go with the first one. The location and pattern of the toning look off to me.

prooflike

The first one is bogus,

ElectricEye

#1 looks AT ~ too tight of a color band

Wolfy00002

Let's see if I've learned anything from you guys yet......

I say door #1

byergo

#1 is AT.

CLASSICS

<< <i>I figured this might be a good educational discussion for those of us who are still trying to learn this stuff.







One of the three is artificially toned. Which one, and why? The answer will no doubt be obvious to most, but the educational part is the discussion of "why".

Russ, NCNE >>

... the colors on the first one appears un-natural, as if heated. the bands look solid, and dont seem to flow into one another.......number 2 is a natural tone, the colors seem to intermingle into one another, number 3 also appears to be natural, as if it was face down in one of those old brown enevlopes, or maybe an album... i have a 1956 thats looks like the twin to this one in one of my mint sets that i have owned since 1965.............

Russ

The first coin is a product of the notorius aswimmer of eBay coin doctoring fame.

The other two coins reside in those little aftermarket five coin year sets where they've likely been since shortly after leaving the mint. These sets can produce some pretty nice toning, most notably on the quarters and the dimes.

Russ, NCNE

DHeath

Russ,

For the purpose of this discussion, I thought it would be fun to include a real 63 that has the look the first coin imitates. This one is real, but a little too dark for my tastes. I pulled it from the mint cello.

Blackhawk

The order of the colors looks suspect on the first coin, the toning pattern would make me suspect of the third coin.

Bikingnut

The top one is most likely AT as that was most of you told me after I sniped it on ebay, and the fact that someone provided the link where aswimmer bought the torch on ebay to provide buyers with those beautiful "naturally toned" coins. I knew it was probably AT when I bought it and five bucks didn't really break me, if I decide not keep it I'll see if he honors his 45 day return privelage on all coins stated to be "naturally toned". I believe that the second one is naturally toned. Didn't I see you post that one earlier today? As for the third, don't really know.

Dennis

Russ

Don,

On yours, the toning doesn't look like it was sprayed on in even strokes like it does on aswimmer's. It has some mottling in the tone which, to me anyway, makes it look much more legitimate.

Russ, NCNE

clackamas

The first coin loks like what happens when you expose the coin to chlorine bleach.

Baley

various colors:

eagle7

I know this is not going to gain me any friends on this forum but I will say it anyway because it should be obvious to everyone who buys and deals with toned Morgan Dollars. The first quarter which Russ says is AT looks exactly like a whole lot of Morgan toners on EBAY in both major slabs (PCGS and NGC). I dont like those colors and patterns on the quarters and I dont like them on the Morgan dollars either. Nuff said!