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massive pcgs thumbprint.. what next?

I picked up three proof Kennedies from l and c coins on Ebay. average price and great shipping. all three pcgs pr69dcam. They arrived today and the 1992 has a hugh thumbprint on the obverse. The print covers 1/4 of the mirrored surface to the right of JFK. It is so obvious that it's hard to believe it left pcgs like this. Should I send it back to l and c or is there recourse back to pcgs?

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Sell it to DOG!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943
    CALL Newport Beach CSI unit for a thorough investigation! God, why is this happening quite frequently!! Fingerprint the employees and then cross it to PR69Dprint!!
    HEAD TUCKED AND ROLLING ALONG ENJOYING THE VIEW! [Most people I know!]

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  • BNEBNE Posts: 772
    Deal with L and C -- you don't know what the coin looked like when it was submitted.

    I bet L and C will replace it with a nicer example.
    "The essence of sleight of hand is distraction and misdirection. If smoeone can be convinced that he has, through his own perspicacity, divined your hidden purposes, he will not look further."

    William S. Burroughs, Cities of the Red Night
  • I think you are right, but this coin would never have graded 69dcam with this honker of a print. My guess is the person who slabbed the coin was eating potato chips and just grabbed it up and slabbed it. This is my first pcgs fingerprint and I must say I finally see what everybody is talking about. This seems like it would be totally impossible to have happen to a proof coin after receiving a 69dcam rating.
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    presleyh,

    Send it back to L & C, they sold you the coin and like BNE said, you don't know what it looked like when they sent it in. If you call PCGS Customer Service to resolve, they want you to send the $25 if you were not the original submitter. It is much cheaper and easier to deal with the people whom which you purchased the coin. L & C should take care of you, they have taken care of a coin for me that just didn't look good. They sent a better coin.

    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

  • send it back to L&C (I just sent back one hazy Lincoln today to them) - I returned a hazed out PR69DCAM state quarter a while back with no hassle (they did send me one helluva a gouged holder as a replacement though)

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't be too hasty.

    Is the print well placed and fully struck?

    Some prints are mushy and lack eye appeal.

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  • topstuf could be onto something ~ what if it isn't a thumbprint but rather a rare big toeprint?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    L&C will take care of it, no problem.

    That said, I would not so readily assume that it was PCGS that put the print on the coin. It may very well have been on the coin when submitted - but not yet visible - and emerged after the coin was graded, as prints will sometimes do.

    Russ, NCNE
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    russ summed it up well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    if you are looking for unsolicited opinions
    ************** i would return all three coins and never do business this firm again*************

    for me if someone sells you
    ************ a premo graded coin 69 dcam*********
    ************ from a top premo slabbing service*********** pcgs

    **************8and the coin is modern ************

    for me the coin should be perfect and eye appealling

    in this case if someone sends you a coin like this in the mail that tells me something about this firm

    actions speak louder than words


    sincerely michael
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    I agree michael- I too would cease to do business with a company that sent me a coin like that even if they do give a refund. mike
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    ttt
    as this thread MAY help some new collectors make better decisions with their coin buying dollars

    sincerely michael

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