Diagnostics for an 09-S VDB/22 plain

paigowjohnny

Assuming I was going to look at raw 09-S VDBs....are there any particular diagnostics to look for to discern a fake from a real one (other than looking for an obviously tooled or glued on mint mark). If there's a good reference, you can point me that way too.

Same question for a 22 no D

Thanks. I'm down to the last two in finishing a nice circ wheatie set.

tjkillian

Here a link to a very large picture of the date/mint mark on a 09-s-VDB. The die chip in the upper loop of the "S" is required on all genuine examples.

Very Large Picture of a 1909-S-VDB Lincoln Cent

Tom

paigowjohnny

Excellent, TJ...just the kind of thing I was looking for.

tjkillian

Who is "TJ"?

Tom

paigowjohnny

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I went for the TJ Killian...allow me to make it more personal (as well as reading my posts closer) Tom. Thank you

joejeweler

Killian is my favorite......."Irish Red" that is!



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I went for the TJ Killian...allow me to make it more personal (as well as reading my posts closer) Tom. Thank you >>

mrdq

mrdq

my 22 no D before it was slabbed

From The complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia by Shane M Anderson

Die pair #2 evolved in a different manner (than 1 and 3). A pair of slightly worn dies producing normal 1922 D cents clashed together damaging the reverse die. The obverse die though worn and marred by the die clash still was considered usable. Apparently the reverse die was extensively damaged perhaps even shattered and was discarded. The obverse die was removed from the press, reworked and polished and matched with a new reverse die.

During the reworking of the obverse die sufficient metal was removed from the die face to erase all traces of the D mintmark. Consequently every specimen struck from this second pair of dies is of the "No D" variety. No subjective judgment is required in determining this variety as the diagnostics for this die are easily recognized. Another desirable feature of this variety is it's superior eye appeal. Because thses coins were struck from a slightly worn obverse die and a new reverse die they exhibit fairly normal details.

The second 2 in the date is sharper than the first
the letters in TRUST are sharp
the letters of WE are only slightly blurred
the L in Liberty runs into the rim

ksteelheader

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jadecoin

Hi. Why wouldn't you want to buy certified examples of these coins? There are many fakes.

- jc

paigowjohnny

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I agree...as a matter of fact my 14-D and 09-S are slabbed. The rest of the collection, minus the 09-S VDB and 22 plain are in a Dansco.

I will probably go the slabbed route, but I know from time to time I may see raw versions, and I don't want to be stupid.

clw54

I usually see both 1922 and SVDB at the Anaheim show.

paigowjohnny

Thanks all..very helpful...