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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3021437491&category=39470
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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Thanks lucy, haven't learned how to post link yet. Tried to put it as an attachment and failed
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    theboz11, I share your opinion.
  • millenniummillennium Posts: 3,305
    Got to be a fake.
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  • JoyofCollectingJoyofCollecting Posts: 682 ✭
    I certainly agree.
    Go well.
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    Probably a fake, but it could be badly cleaned. It does not look right, I agree.
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  • bstat1020bstat1020 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭
    Looks fake to me. I will email the seller about it and see what he has to say. image
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    It is clearly a crude copy, fake, replica or whatever.
    Look at the headress feather detail, the irregular shaped stars, (stars are uniform on the real deal) and the legends; top of OF AMERICA worn away-remember it's incused.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It can't be a fake. He's an eBay Power Seller.

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  • bstat1020bstat1020 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭
    OK I emailed this guy and here is his response. Not the most positive answer in the world, but here you go.



    Subj: Re: Question for seller -- Item #3021437491
    Date: 4/29/2003 9:45:20 AM Eastern Standard Time
    From: creekchubhines@fuse.net
    To: bstat1021@aol.com
    Reply-To: creekchubhines@fuse.net
    Sent from the Internet (Details)


    as far as i know it is real--im not a coin collector at all--took this coin in trade on some old fishing tackle--a coin collector friend looked at it and in his opinion it was totally legit.
    mike
    bstat1021@aol.com wrote:

    Is this coin real?? Because it looks either fake or badly cleaned.
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    Question from: bstat1021@aol.com
    Title of item: BEAUTIFUL 1912 $5.00 U.S. GOLD COIN
    Seller: creekchubhines@fuse.net
    Starts: Apr-28-03 20:15:00 PDT
    Ends: May-08-03 20:15:00 PDT
    Price: Starts at $49.99
    To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3021437491

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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    sounds like a fish tale to me, or somebody got hooked badly
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  • ShoeshineBoyShoeshineBoy Posts: 51
    My 1913 $5 Indian (certified by NGC) does not look like that coin. On the coin in question, the top feather in the headress touches the first star after LIBERTY. But on mine it does not come close to touching. Also, the 3 bottom stars on the right of the fake coin are closer to the headress than they are on mine. The feathers in the headress also don't look right.

    The coin in this auction looks like mine.

    I'm not completely knowledgeable about $5 Indians so it's possible that the difference could be due to a different die version (someone will have to correct me here if I'm wrong). But I would definitely stay far away from this one.

  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536 ✭
    Bad fake. B in LIBERTY is way too close to the headress, point of top feather in headress ends touching star. It should end centered between the top two right hand stars. Bottom left star is half embedded in the bust, the bust should touch the two inner star points but not engulf half the star. Bottom right star should point at bottom feather, on the fake it points at the junction between two feathers. Therer are other problems but those are enough to condemn the piece.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 139
    Auction has ended due to an error in the listing.
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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Maybe somebody won't be let down by buying that. Thanks
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    That's ones as bad as some of the trade dollars going around. The feathers in the headress are pretty funny they look like a third grader did it. mike image
  • bstat1020bstat1020 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭
    Here is the reason why the auction ended early.
    Good job forum!!

    looks like you might be right--just in case i have ended the auction and will have the coin checked further. luckily i can still contact the person i made the trade with and cancel the deal.
    thanks for your time and expertise.
    mike
    bstat1021@aol.com wrote:

    I am sorry to say but the one you have is indeed a fake.
    Look at this one:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3020769245&category=39470
    Look at the relationship of the first star to the feathers in the headress. They don't even touch in the real one. On yours they almost over lap. I would probably say you should cancel your auction. You don't want to jip someone do you?
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    Question from: bstat1021@aol.com
    Title of item: BEAUTIFUL 1912 $5.00 U.S. GOLD COIN
    Seller: creekchubhines@fuse.net
    Starts: Apr-28-03 20:15:00 PDT
    Ends: May-08-03 20:15:00 PDT
    Price: Starts at $49.99
    To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3021437491

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  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    In context, the correct spelling of the word "jip" in the post above is "gyp". "Gyp" is a derivative of the word "gypsy". To get "gypped" implies that one has been swindled or defrauded. It conveys the stereotype that gypsies are a scheming and conniving people. "Gyp" is as horrific a stereotype as "stupid broad" or "drunken indian".
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Hang that man! He used the word jip! Get a rope! String him up!

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  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭


    << <i>That's ones as bad as some of the trade dollars going around. The feathers in the headress are pretty funny they look like a third grader did it. mike image >>





    Lots of inexperienced, unknowing buyers on Ebay getting skinned on those counterfeit Trade Dollars.



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  • bstat1020bstat1020 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭
    Au58 Thanks for the info on the word gyp, I didn't know this was a spelling bee though. Could you please use it in a sentence. Lighten up people!!!image
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