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Dealers: How much do you despise the IPC (incredibly picky customer)?

I'm curious, because I'm one of them.



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  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178
    I don't mind it myself as long as the item I sell him he likes and keeps. I am picky sometimes, so what comes around goes around.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dunno what's it like on the sell side, but when dealers are buying they LOVE picky customers image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I think if a dealer despises picky customers, they probably ought to get out of business and go get a 9 to 5 job somewhere.

    Russ, NCNE
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A picky customer is still a customer; as long as he doesn't hamper business with other customers at a table. I've had my 'picky' days also. Besides---- the next show that customer may more than make up for that one 'picky' day.
    ----- kj
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,332 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is NOTHING more gratifying to a coin dealer than selling the perfect coin to a customer who knows EXACTLY what he is doing. Unfortunately, those customers are rarer than the coins, so I wholesale most (not all) of my coins.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Picky? - Visiting most coin shops means wanting a coin that isn't a turd! Now are you talking Eliasberg picky? Or who was that Baltimore collector who had a killer gold set that sold off one or two years back? Now he was PICKY!

    Tyler
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Hey Mark,

    I forgot to mention that I got to see a PR66CAM Trade Dollar in your case at the show. My pulse is still pounding.image

    Oh, and I promise I won't mention what else I saw in the case.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    C'mon, Russ ... you should have pulled the trigger on the Trade $. Whatsamatter, a hundred-some-odd-years too old for your taste? Perhaps Mark -- in a moment of weakness -- would have given you decent money in trade for your AH 68-DCAM. image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    RGL,

    It was beautiful but, alas, I am poor.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    Now, Russ ... if you would sell all of your AHs, you would at least have a decent downpayment ... image
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with Singapore and Sunnywood on this one. The game is really stacked against the collector. Sorry, that's the way it is. One defense is to be a VPC....one notch below an IPC. Grading standards have changed at least 3 times since the late 1970's. And they'll change again too. Which one should we go by? Frankly, for self preservation you have to go back to the one that is the tightest and and works best for you. Your coins will eventually show up....be patient. Better to buy a few great coins each year than a bagful that you ultimately regret buying. That's what I feel a real collector should do. Collector....not necessarily accumulator.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did someone say PF66 cameo? image

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    RGL,

    Sell is a four-letter word when used in the same sentence with Accented Hairs.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,332 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did someone say PF66 cameo?

    Did you have to wake HIM up???
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • A picky customer is no problem as long as they are willing to pay for the extra trouble. If they have no clue and
    complain, I let them go. Unless your an expert, you need to trust your dealer. If you can't, then you need a new
    dealer. Quality is everything.....................everything.
    Rusty
  • Russ......thinking "i am poor" is a self fulfilling prophesy!

    Why..........it seems you have many friends right here on the boards......are you not blessed with riches? Do you not have enough food to eat, cloths to wear, a roof over your head.........what a majority sharing this planet with you cannot lay claim to?

    Alas.....what you meant to say is i have not yet achieved my full potential. I am a work in progress, and only my imagination and creative drive can fulfill my potential! Time is your friend......and soon i will achieve what i envision!

    Naw........get a second job like the rest of us! image



    << <i>RGL,

    It was beautiful but, alas, I am poor.

    Russ, NCNE >>

    The Ex-"Crown Jewel" of my collection! 1915 PF68 (NGC) Barber Half "Eliasberg".

    Once again resides with Legend, the original purchaser "raw" at live Eliasberg auction. Laura and i "love" the same lady!

    image
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I suspect, there is virtually no one more picky than Oreville from our boards (ask him yourself) image Yet, it is quite easy and pleasurable to do business with him - he wants super PQ+++++ coins and is willing to pay for them. I find, the problem comes in where the IPC wants super PQ+++++ coins and doesn't want to pay for them.

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    I agree with much of the sentiment here.

    Purchasers should only buy what makes them happy. If the item does not match their criteria, then there is no problem with returning it.

    I encourage all collectors, no matter how picky they are. If they are too picky, they will have no coins in their collection.

    On a service level, the IPC will get normal service. However, he will get less chances to purchase, because it takes too much time and expense to send the coin on approval, only to have it returned. Sales will flow, like water, to the course of least resistance.

    The only people that will not receive normal service are those that are dishonest. They have a much bigger hurdle to jump.
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

    eBaystore
  • FinallyHereFinallyHere Posts: 821 ✭✭✭
    There is a difference between working with a collector that is picky and one that is simply not realistic, however some of the lack of realism falls at the foot of the dealer. I truly believe that collectors want and desire to work with a dealer or dealers that are willing to pass along knowledge, but who are also willing to listen to the collector in terms of taking the time to really find out what he/she wants in the coins they are looking for. When a collector has spent years specializing in a series, it is important for a dealer to listen and learn from that collector.

    I've worked with many collectors who are known to be very picky and have some wonderful relationships with those same collectors with a great deal of success in helping them obtain what they want. There is a board member here whom I was told to avoid because he was too picky. This was many years ago and we still have an excellent and ongoing relationship.

    Bottom line for me is picky is not a problem as long as it is balanced with reality.

    Mike Printz
    My Site
    Mike Printz
    Harlan J. Berk, Ltd.
    https://hjbltd.com/#!/department/us-coins
  • BustmanBustman Posts: 1,911

    There is a board member here whom I was told to avoid because he was too picky. This was many years ago and we still have an excellent and ongoing relationship.

    You couldn't possibly be talking about me..I am a dealers dream come true.

    Bottom line for me is picky is not a problem as long as it is balanced with reality.

    Mike, Very much like Fox news, You have always been fair and balanced!image
  • FinallyHereFinallyHere Posts: 821 ✭✭✭
    Bustman....nope not you....but now that I think about it.....well...nevermind.

    I suppose I should not have referred to a board member without name, but what I said was true and we do still work together. I will not use a name since I like buying his coins!!!

    Mike
    Mike Printz
    Harlan J. Berk, Ltd.
    https://hjbltd.com/#!/department/us-coins
  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    Thats all right Mike, my ears are burning!!!

    In case that was me you were referring to, i wear the to picky label like a badge of honor. Les
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.
  • FinallyHereFinallyHere Posts: 821 ✭✭✭
    Les,

    You are way too smart for your own good. Yeah...twas you my friend and as you read in my thread, I love buying your coins because I do not view you as picky.....just as a knowledgeable collector that knows what he wants in a coin. We have always had good luck together Les...and I suspect we will again....I hope anyway.

    All the best to you.

    Mike

    Mike Printz
    Harlan J. Berk, Ltd.
    https://hjbltd.com/#!/department/us-coins
  • barberloverbarberlover Posts: 2,228 ✭✭
    Hopefully the dealer that said those things about me will read this Mike!!! LOL
    The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.

  • Some people are picky to the point of insanity (e.g., illogical), however truly the buyer has this right.

    It is up to the individual seller to determine where to draw this line, if they wish to.

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