1901-s Barber quarter enthusiasts (Is this coin genuine?)
jdimmick
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Okay Board members, Does this 01-s Quarter look genuine?
S and positioning does not look right to me? Definitely not die pair #1, and questionable about Die 2
S looks to sharp also for this grade of coin.
0 rating seller, and found with a metal detector(that would be one H"" of a find!!!)
jim dimmick
auction link 01-s
S and positioning does not look right to me? Definitely not die pair #1, and questionable about Die 2
S looks to sharp also for this grade of coin.
0 rating seller, and found with a metal detector(that would be one H"" of a find!!!)
jim dimmick
auction link 01-s
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The seller is a zero. The coin is raw. Somebody tried to cut Liberty's throat.
But- ?
As a detectorist, I have seen silver come out of the ground looking like that, but it depends on the soil. His claim that it "has not even been cleaned up yet" might be true. Hard to say. Most silver comes out of the dirt a bit darker and crustier than that. That particular coin looks more like a regular circulated non-dug piece to me, but I do have some Barber coins with that color that I dug, rinsed the loose soil off with plain soap and water, and did nothing else to 'em. It's possible, and again, varies according to the type of soil the coin was found in.
Even if it did come out of the ground, that's no guarantee of authenticity, though finding a counterfeit with a detector seldom occurs unless it's a contemporary counterfeit made to pass for face value, and those were usually a lot cruder. If he's faked it, the detector find story might be an attempt to make it more credible. (And it works- it rather does make it more credible in my eyes than the same old, tired "grandfathers estate" tales.)
People DO find key date coins with detectors. Every year. The loose change that's lying out there in the ground hasn't been picked over by collectors and dealers, either- a 1901-S quarter was just a quarter when somebody lost it back then. That's one thing that makes detecting so exciting. One seldom finds a truly rare item that's worth a lot of money, but the possibility is always there.
Hard to say on that particular coin, at least for me.
I'm going detecting tomorrow at an old plantation site that has been off-limits for years. A buddy of mine just got written permission to hunt there. Folks who detected there in the past reported lots of nice Bust coins appearing on the site, and a Seated half appeared there recently. There was also a Confederate encampment nearby. Wish me luck. If I find a 1901-S quarter from the later, Victorian-era occupation of the site, I'll be sure to post a pic for comparison purposes.
I used to do quite a bit myself, until someone stole my detector out of my car last year. Never got around to purchasing another.
I havent bothered replacing yet, Its kind of hard for the time being, as I have three young children(2,8,10) and they dont do to well at some of the places where the good stuff is.
When they get a little older, I think I will pick up another detector and try to locate some more intresting stuff. I have never found anything all that valuable, but some neat and intresting items including some type coins. Never have found any gold coins, but did manage to dig a 3c silver, FE 1c, Bust .50. others
My best find was probably a confederate civil war medal found near a gathering/camp spot (worth about 400.00) and two civil war minnie balls found on a near by battle field that are fused together from colliding in mid air.
jim
<< <i>Its kind of hard for the time being, as I have three young children(2,8,10) and they dont do to well at some of the places where the good stuff is. >>
That's my problem. Baby Victoria is 19 months old and I keep her during the day while my wife sleeps off the effects of working graveyard shift. I seldom get out anymore. Only on vacations and rare occasions- maybe five or six times a year. Used to be 2-3 times a WEEK! When she's bigger, I'll take her along to some of the more civilized, in-town sites like parks. By the time she's old enough to go to some of the wild-n'-wooly, backwoods relic-hunting sites, she'll be old enough to stay home on her own, or go to a friend's house or something. Maybe when she's school age I can hunt in the mornings. I work evenings (in fact, I do 90% of my chatting on these forums from work).
I've never found examples of the three types you mentioned, though plenty of FE cents and 3c silvers have popped up for others around here. My buddy Billy says he found a really nice 1851 3cS on the site we'll be going, just a few days ago.
I just sold one of Billy's nicer finds, in fact.
Tyler
Per David Lawrence's Book on quarters it looks about as close as can be. The "1's" match and are centered over denticles on the obverse and the S appears to be centered just right.
for a WILD GUESS it looks genuine to mE................................
if you can have a full 100% return priviledge and you 100% trust the seller would honor a full refund on the coin then it is worth it to bid on the coin
i would love to see this coin in person IF sight seen in person IT WAS REAL ACCOURDING TO ME i would pay 1500 for it
sincerely michael
The date matches dp #2 as does the location of the mm and it's the correct 3rd hub.
I would say it's genuine but you know the drill about raw key coins from 0 feedback sellers on eBay.
Tyler
Thanks for correcting me on the die numbers, I wrote them backwards.
Definitley not obverse A #1,
I still dont like the s, although looking at it again, I can see resemblence of the other die pair.
Maybe it is, I am not intrested in purchasing this coin as I have one already PCGS, but just always search to see what 01-s are up for sale. Just trying to protect potential buyers from fraudulent activities.
I am however, and have been looking for a PCGS-15 thru a PCGS-35 whenever one comes up?