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Sacagawea question

I have two Sacs with the same grade. The 2000-P appears to have a satin finish while the 2002-P is much more brilliant and reflective. My question is why is there a difference?

2000-P
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2002-P
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Sorry Carl, the real question is "Does anyone really care about the Crapagawea's"! In answer to your question, don't know!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Carl, I don't know why that occurs, but I have seen many examples like the 2 you show. NGC slabs some Sacs PL. Personally, I like the satin finish better on a MS coin, but both can be very attractive. It's too bad someone from the mint doesn't regularly visit the boards and do a Q & Q like David Hall does. I'm sure they would be asked a ton of questions. mdwoods
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  • Thanks for the comments. The 2000-P takes a better photo. The satin finish really shows nice luster. The brilliant one looks a little like a brilliant proof and is very attractive too. I'll try a better photo on that one. Both photos above were taken in exactly the same conditions.
  • I care, Marty. I've never known you to be so harsh?

    Carl,

    It doesn't seem to be related to die age, because several of the early-strike Sacs (good, deep, clean strikes) I've had were satin/matte. I think it is more about die maintenance or modification. I've gotten same year, same mint dollars that were brilliant and others that are matte. I think it is largely a function of planchet quality and maintained dies. Matte good strikes tend to hide rub better and tend to grade higher when there aren't monster hits or die clogs.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I care, Marty. I've never known you to be so harsh? >>


    Why?, Until the US Government get rid of the one dollar bill, dollar coins are a big waste! I hate to say it, but it's true. The dollar bill and the Lincoln cent should just go away! Personally I like the idea of a one dollar coin, it's small, it's a different color than a quarter. But the US Mint has warehouses filled with SACs and Kennedys. Why, because the people here won't give up the dollar bill! Until that happends, the Crapagawea is a waste of taxpayers money!

    Whew, I feel better now!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Marty, STOP WHINING!

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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
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  • The top ones burnished, the bottom ones not!
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  • maddogalemaddogale Posts: 859 ✭✭
    I have to agree with you Marty. Congress needs to grow a set and get rid of the dollar bill, and perhaps even institute a $2 coin also, as well as dumping the cent. Always thought that X.99 prices were asinine anyway.
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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Marty is right about the dollar bill. Until is goes away, dollar coins probably won't be successful. I carry and spend them, but I don't know anyone else around my parts that does. We could save a considerable sum of taxpayer money by getting rid of the dollar bill. I suspect the company that provides the paper for the One Dollar bill probably does some heavy lobbying. And, people, as a group, are generally not that receptive to change.imageimage
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're right about the dollar bill. It would also help if more vending machines would accept them.
    I have actually noticed at least 3 different finishes on these-a fine grained matte; a coarser grained matte;
    and the semi-prooflike finish. All three exist for both Mints. Whether this is caused by die preparation or what, I don't know. I have a feeling most of the semi-prooflike ones are caused by die clashing and susequent die polishing, as with other coins.

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