MONSTER 1967 Special Mint Set
lablover
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My newest find...picked up a 1966 and 2-1967 Special Mint Sets in the US Mint Holders. They're MONSTERS!!! 
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
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TBT
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Damn! What causes that kind of color? >>
I have no idea. But the scans are not that great. The colors are much brighter and more intense. Here's a bit better sample. If never seen anything like this before.
TBT
From the eensy-teensy bit of knowledge about this stuff that I've been able to absorb, I'd say hang on to those coins until the toning pattern becomes "market acceptable", and you may yet get them graded. PCGS used to body bag toned proof Jeffersons. They slab them now.
Russ, NCNE
Good observation….now keep quiet!
TBT
There isn't, or at least shouldn't be a term called 'market acceptable', a coin is either naturally toned or it is not. If the services are holdering coins they think could pass for market acceptable but doubtfully original, they are making a big mistake IMO. Experts who specialize in a particular series can usually spot 98% of the AT'd pieces in about 1 second simply from experience, and for that other 2%, they should just reject them as questionable.
As for the dimes and quarters in those sets, they appear from the pics to be 100% artificially colored to me, although I do not specialize in those series. Those flourescent deep blues and bright golds covering 100% of a coin are typically a dead giveaway on many modern issues.
Market acceptable is a vague and unacceptable term IMO.
dragon
<< <i>As for the dimes and quarters in those sets, they appear from the pics to be 100% artificially colored to me, >>
So, could someone explain to me how a coin like these could become artificially toned while in they're orig. holder. I've inspected it and no tampering is noted. Regardless, I paid so little for these it would not matter to me anyway. Just curious. Thanks for the input and comments.
Jim
<< <i>If the services are holdering coins they think could pass for market acceptable but doubtfully original >>
Dragon,
I don't know if they're doing that, and that's not what I meant anyway. I was talking about the opposite situation, where they body bag a coin even when the toning is genuine simply because they don't find it "market acceptable". That, I know they do.
Russ, NCNE
right into it in the corner. There is a blue insert for these sets. They open just like
any of the whitman holders at the corners but are a little harder to reseal than most
of the others made by the same company. 80% will snap right back together but the
others will have to be played with or lots of pressure applied.
There is very little evidence that people swap coins in these sets but gems are suffi-
iently scarce that swapping out cameos and the like would leave little evidence. In the
old days about every fouth SMS set in these cases would have at least one lightly or
more heavily frosted gem. It is now down to about every ninth or tenth set. While these
sets are obviously picked over (or gems swapped out) this is not true for most other mod-
ern mint and proof sets. Your set is most probably original simply because all the coins are
affected though of course there is no way to be certain.
rd5425: the lincoln on two of the sets have similar toning as well.
<< <i>The '66 and '67 SMS holders were made by Whitman and has their name molded >>
Cladking: I can't find the Whitman stamp anywhere on the plastic holder (corner, edge, etc.) The only stamp is "Packaged by U.S. Mint" on the top bottom right of holder. They do have the "blue" insert however.
Thanks
In opposite corners there will be a notch in the middle. Put a screw driver in and twist,
the case will open without any damage.
It's also probably not AT.
2nd paragraph added.
Besides you may have learned a valuable lesson without spending your rent money on it.
adrian