Late 60's Topps Test (?) Issues

1420sports

Does anyone (Marc, I know you are out there) have any info on the following:

1967 Topps Punch Outs and 1967 Stand Ups
1968 Topps Action All Star Stickers, 1967 Plaks, and 1967 Discs

These are 5 sets I have never heard of, and am looking for a certain player who has a card in all of these sets.

Thanks in advance fellas

aro13

I do not know if this information is what you want but according to the 2003 Standard Catalogue of Baseball Cards

1967 Topps Punch Outs
"This little known topps issue was reportedly issued around Maryland in Cello packs containing two perforated strips of three game cards each. Cards are printed in black, white and red and measure 2- 1/2 x 4- 2/3. Backs have instructions on how to play a baseball game by punching out the small squares. Only the "Team Captain" is pictured on the card, and the same captain can be found with different line-ups on his team, creating a large number of collectible variations."
1967 Topps Stand Ups
"Never actually issued, no more than a handful of each of these rare issues has made their way into the hobby market. Designed so that the color photo of the player's head could be popped out of the black background, and placed into a punch-out base to create a stand-up display, examples of these 3 1/8 x 5 1/4 cards can be found either die-cut around the portrait or without the cutting."
1968 Topps Action All Star Stickers
"Action All-Star stickers were sold in a strip of three, with bubblegum, for 10 cents. The strip is comprised of three 3 1/4 x 5 1/4 panels, perforated at the joints for separation. The numbered central panel contains a large photo of a star player. The top and bottom panels each contain smaller pictures of three players. While there are 16 numbered centre panels, only 12 of them are different; panels 13-16 are double prints. "

1420sports

Thanks aro - I need to pick up that book

dbj77

That book is amazing, I picked it up and the 2003 Basketball cards book as well. Both are packed with great info.

mikeschmidt

From another source (that is a tad bit dated...)

1967 Giant Stand Ups (24)
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Sometimes referred to as Heads Up this is another mega-rare test issue from our friends at Topps and these 3 1/8" x 5 1/4" cards may never have seen official release. A color head shot with scant descriptive text was to have been popped out from the surrounding black background, but I can't ever recall seeing any un-popped cards advertised, which certainly points to Mr. Gelman as the source of these. Some examples are found without perforated lines around the heads, which does not have any real bearing on price since these puppies are expensive! Advanced collectors (don't you love that term? It used to mean anyone who collected poorly-researched, expensive cards, but everybody seems to be doing that these days. My own definition has changed to reflect this and I now consider an advanced collector as anyone who is rich and collects baseball cards.) will salivate like dogs when one of the big names is offered at auction and bid the prices into the stratosphere. A type card or two is really the only way to go here, but that might not happen either. Dream on, dream on...

1967 Punchboard (Unknown)
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I love a good hobby mystery and this set, along with its related, but dissimilar test issue ancestor, certainly gave me fits. Once I figured out the test issue was from 1966, I had to determine why Sandy Koufax was in this set, when he retired in 1966. Different publications and advertisements showed the year of issue as 1967, 1968 or 1969, which was no help. Rack style packs have been known in the hobby for some time as being issued in '67, but wax packs (featuring Mickey Mantle, by the way) were thought to have been issued in 1968 or 69. Since these cards are unaccountably scarce, I had to work off an ad which fortunately listed players by team. Then the 1995 Standard Catalog was published and my job was made easier. A check of the Baseball Encyclopedia revealed all players shown in the ad were with their listed teams at the end of 1966. A few of these retired following season's end, including Koufax. So 1967 it was. Or was it? Sandy retired on November 18, 1966 and I believe the set was already in pre-production at that time. He was a big name player who had just walked away from the game in his prime. He was known to kids throughout the country; in fact, when I first started seriously collecting as a kid in 1970, a 1966 Sandy Koufax card I had brought a Hank Aaron in trade, a card which I had been trying to obtain for weeks and for which I had previously offered up everything short of my entire collection. So I think Topps just decided to go with the name recognition factor to sell some cards in 1967. Plus, since other players in the set are listed in the "lineup" section of the Punchboard, just below the small photo of the team captain on each one, it may have been more trouble than it was worth to make so many changes. But what of the 1968 wax packs? Well, since this issue is so hard to find for a set that was seemingly released as a legitimate item I think Topps sold leftovers from 1967 in 1968, which could mean poor sales have made this set the toughie it is today. These cards can easily be differentiated from the 1966 test issue as they have only one black and white photo on the upper left corner and square punch out pieces. The size of the set is probably complete at 90 cards, although card backs indicate almost 200 exist, but some, if not all players appear in more than one lineup, so it's possible 180 different versions exist, assuming two different lineups per player.

1968 Plaks Checklist (2)
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This is one of the strangest Topps issues of all time, bar none. It was also a great deal if you were a kid in 1968 and all you had was one thin dime to spend. For ten cents you got three small player plaks on a sprue--just like a real plastic model-- which had to be inserted into their individual bases, which were also attached to the sprue. Plus you got a real nifty checklist card, featuring actual photos of twelve players in the set, which was a good thing since the plaks all resembled your Uncle Fred. Finally, you got two pieces of bubble gum. The whole kit and kaboodle was wrapped nicely in an oversized wax pack, which had instructions on how to assemble the plaks, in case you were a real lame-o and also featured an artists's rendition of the plaks that resembled Mount Rushmore. The reality is that the checklist is said to measure 2 1/8" x 4", which means each plak is about 1 1/2" x 2" fully assembled. Big deal, right? As a grownup now in your thirties, you try to find a few of these at the local card show and wonder aloud at the lack of plaks. A kindly dealer informs you that they can't be found these days because everybody back in 1968 used to assemble them and they weren't issued in great quantity at any rate. Any plaks that come on the market are sold for a pile of cash, he says, two piles of cash if they're still on the sprues. What about the checklists?, you ask. Mr. Dealer goes on to state that anytime a checklist comes on the market it's immediately placed in an auction and ultimately sold for a mid three figure price to the advanced collectors of the world who bid on such things. You shake your head in wonder and slowly walk away, fondly remembering a day long ago when you had that lonely dime in your pocket and happened across a pack of these cheesy little statues.

1968 Action All Star Stickers (16)
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Here's an item that also retailed for a dime back in 1968. A strip of three vertical panels, each of which measures 3 1/4" x 5 1/4" and contains seven stickers of ball players. The top and bottom panel have three smaller player stickers, plus a facsimile autograph or two. The middle panel contains a larger sticker with autograph. Numbers 13-16 repeat poses found on numbers 1-4, but not in the same sequence. You'll pay big bucks for these babies, so make sure the panels are intact before you buy. While these stickers are somewhat scarce, they are not as rare as some dealers would have you believe.

mikeschmidt

P.S. Neal -- the 1968 Plaks Checklist cards are some of the most beautiful Topps cards ever produced. They are dreadfully hard to find in ANY condition -- but I know that Mastro or ScP or someone had both of the checklists for sale at some point in the last 3-4 years. It was a lot where one was graded PSA 7 and the other was PSA 8. Such beautiful cards.

Imagine a checklist that has only six player names on it (all superstars) on each side -- with a headshot of the player next to their checklist name. AWESOME stuff.

waitilltheytrytosell

And, if you are looking for Pete Rose in any of these issues, besides the Action All-Star Sticker and Plaks Checklist, you better be wearing riot gear and carrying a big stick.

RedHeart54

A lot of the '67 Stand Ups (including Rose) and a pack of Plaks was auctioned last year by Sportscards Plus. I believe the pack sold for over $5000 and I think the Rose Stand Up brought over $4000.

koby

Sportscards Plus had some great 1967 Topps Standups in their auction a year ago. The prices realized were incredible. I believe the Mantle card went for over $12000 and the Mays sold for over $6000.

carew4me

1968 Action All Star Stickers

1 YASTRZEMSKI CARL LARGE
1 KALINE AL
1 CEPEDA ORLANDO
1 MAZEROSKI BILL
1 HORLEN JOEL
1 STOTTLEMYRE MEL
1 OSTEEN CLAUDE
2 KILLEBREW HARMON LARGE
2 DRYSDALE DON
2 SWOBODA RON
2 WARD PETE
2 SCOTT GEORGE
2 McCORMICK MIKE
2 PHOEBUS TOM
3 ROBINSON FRANK LARGE
3 AARON HANK
3 SEAVER TOM
3 PEPITONE JOE
3 MALONEY JIM
3 CASANOVA PAUL
3 REICHARDT RICK
4 SANTO RON LARGE
4 ROBINSON FRANK
4 CHANCE DEAN
4 LEFEBVRE JIM
4 CALLISON JOHNNY
4 LONBORG JIM
4 ASPROMONTE BOB
5 MAYS WILLIE LARGE
5 ROSE PETE
5 KRANEPOOL ED
5 HORTON WILLIE
5 SANTO RON
5 DOWNING AL
5 CAMPANERIS BERT
6 KALINE AL LARGE
6 YASTRZEMSKI CARL
6 BANKS ERNIE
6 McCARVER TIM
6 ALVIS MAX
6 WILLIAMS WALT
6 STAUB RUSTY
7 MANTLE MICKEY LARGE
7 CAREW ROD
7 McCOVEY WILLIE
7 WILLIAMS BILLY
7 GONZALEZ TONY
7 MONDAY RICK
7 HARGAN STEVE
8 HORLEN JOEL LARGE
8 BOYER CLETE
8 CONIGLIARO TONY
8 BUNNING JIM
8 CUELLAR MIKE
8 McMULLEN KEN
8 MINCHER DON
9 CEPEDA ORLANDO LARGE
9 MAYS WILLIE
9 CLEMENTE ROBERTO
9 KILLEBREW HARMON
9 FREGOSI JIM
9 SHORT CHRIS
9 WILSON EARL
10 AARON HANK LARGE
10 MANTLE MICKEY
10 GIBSON BOB
10 HUNTER JIM
10 PINSON VADA
10 PETERS GARY
10 HARRELSON BUD
11 DRYSDALE DON LARGE
11 OLIVA TONY
11 VEALE BOB
11 FREEHAN BILL
11 HOWARD FRANK
11 JENKINS FERGIE
11 WYNN JIM
12 CLEMENTE ROBERTO LARGE
12 ALLEN RICHIE
12 TORRE JOE
12 McGLOTHLIN JIM
12 PEREZ TONY
12 ROBINSON BROOKS
12 McDOWELL SAM
13 YASTRZEMSKI CARL LARGE-REPEATED POSE
13 ROBINSON FRANK REPEATED POSE
13 CHANCE DEAN REPEATED POSE
13 SCOTT GEORGE REPEATED POSE
13 DRYSDALE DON REPEATED POSE
13 PHOEBUS TOM REPEATED POSE
13 LEFEBVRE JIM REPEATED POSE
14 KILLEBREW HARMON LARGE-REPEATED POSE
14 SEAVER TOM REPEATED POSE
14 CASANOVA PAUL REPEATED POSE
14 REICHARDT RICK REPEATED POSE
14 CEPEDA ORLANDO REPEATED POSE
14 MAZEROSKI BILL REPEATED POSE
14 HORLEN JOEL REPEATED POSE
15 ROBINSON FRANK LARGE-REPEATED POSE
15 SWOBODA RON REPEATED POSE
15 WARD PETE REPEATED POSE
15 McCORMICK MIKE REPEATED POSE
15 LONBORG JIM REPEATED POSE
15 CALLISON JOHNNY REPEATED POSE
15 ASPROMONTE BOB REPEATED POSE
16 SANTO RON LARGE-REPEATED POSE
16 AARON HANK REPEATED POSE
16 KALINE AL REPEATED POSE
16 PEPITONE JOE REPEATED POSE
16 MALONEY JIM REPEATED POSE
16 STOTTLEMYRE MEL REPEATED POSE
16 OSTEEN CLAUDE REPEATED POSE

carew4me

1968 Plaks Checklist

ALVIS MAX
HOWARD FRANK
CHANCE DEAN
HUNTER JIM
FREGOSI JIM
KALINE AL
KILLEBREW HARMON
PETERS GERY
LONBORG JIM
ROBINSON FRANK
MANTLE MICKEY
YASTRZEMSKI CARL
AARON HANK
CLEMENTE ROBERTO
ALLEN RICHIE
DAVIS TOMMY
CEPEDA ORLANDO
DRYSDALE DON
MAYS WILLIE
STAUB RUSTY
McCARVER TIM
ROSE PETE
SANTO RON
WYNN JIM

carew4me

1967 Giant Stand Ups

1 ROSE PETE
2 PETERS GARY
3 ROBINSON FRANK
4 LONBORG JIM
5 SWOBODA RON
6 KILLEBREW HARMON
7 CLEMENTE ROBERTO
8 MANTLE MICKEY
9 FREGOSI JIM
10 KALINE AL
11 DRYSDALE DON
12 CHANCE DEAN
13 CEPEDA ORLANDO
14 McCARVER TIM
15 HOWARD FRANK
16 ALVIS MAX
17 STAUB RUSTY
18 ALLEN RICHIE
19 MAYS WILLIE
20 AARON HANK
21 YASTRZEMSKI CARL
22 SANTO RON
23 HUNTER JIM
24 WYNN JIM

carew4me

1967 Punchboard

AARON HANK
ALLEN RICHIE
ALLEY GENE
ALOU FELIPE
ALOU MATTY
ALVIS MAX
APARICIO LUIS
BARBER STEVE
BATTEY EARL
BOYER CLETE
BOYER KEN
BROCK LOU
BUNNING JIM
CALLISON JOHNNY
CAMPANERIS BERT
CARDENAS LEO
CARTY RICO
CASH NORM
CEPEDA ORLANDO
CHARLES ED
CLEMENTE ROBERTO
CLENDENON DONN
COLAVITO ROCKY
CONIGLIARO TONY
DAVIS WILLIE
EDWARDS JOHNNY
ETCHEBARREN ANDY
FLOOD CURT
FREEHAN BILL
FREGOSI JIM
GIBSON BOB
GREEN DICK
GROAT DICK
GROTE JERRY
HALLER TOM
HART JIM RAY
HERSHBERGER MIKE
HOWARD ELSTON
HOWARD FRANK
HUNT RON
JACKSON SONNY
JONES CLEON
KAAT JIM
KALINE AL
KILLEBREW HARMON
KNOOP BOBBY
KOUFAX SANDY
KRANEPOOL ED
LEFEBVRE JIM
LOCK DON
LUMPE JERRY
MANTLE MICKEY
MARICHAL JUAN
MAYS WILLIE
MAZEROSKI BILL
McAULIFFE DICK
McCARVER TIM
McLAIN DENNY
McMILLAN ROY
MENKE DENIS
MORGAN JOE
OLIVA TONY
PEPITONE JOE
PERRY GAYLORD
PINSON VADA
POWELL BOOG
REICHARDT RICK
ROBINSON BROOKS
ROBINSON FLOYD
ROBINSON FRANK
ROMANO JOHN
ROSE PETE
ROSEBORO JOHN
SALMON CHICO
SANTO RON
SCOTT GEORGE
SIEBERT SONNY
SNYDER RUSS
STARGELL WILLIE
STOTTLEMYRE MEL
TORRE JOE
TOVAR CESAR
TRESH TOM
VERSALLES ZOILO
WAGNER LEON
WHITE BILL
WHITFIELD FRED
WILLIAMS BILLY
WYNN JIM
YASTRZEMSKI CARL

carew4me

1967 Discs

AARON HANK
CALLISON JOHNNY
CAMPANERIS BERT
CARDENAS LEO
CEPEDA ORLANDO
CLEMENTE ROBERTO
HOWARD FRANK
JONES CLEON
KNOOP BOBBY
KOUFAX SANDY
MANTLE MICKEY
MARICHAL JUAN
MAYS WILLIE
McDOWELL SAM
McLAIN DENNY
MORGAN JOE
OLIVA TONY
POWELL BOOG
ROBINSON BROOKS
ROBINSON FRANK
SANTO RON
STAUB RUSTY
TORRE JOE
YASTRZEMSKI CARL

Cubfan

When I was 8 I had a complete set or two of the stickers . Now I only have three of the complete 3-panel sheets (the ones with Williams, Banks and Santo included on each). Man, the things I should have saved.

I always find it amazing that there are still extremely nice versions of items that were made to be destroyed (stickers that are not peeled, standups that are not broken apart, etc.).

Most of the stickers on ebay have separated panels or are just of one of the panels.

Good luck 1420!!

1420sports

Thanks fellas ...

Marc, as always you provide some real nice reading.

Waittil - maybe I will

koby

67 Stand Up

bobsbbcards

ttt

Let's update this thread.

sfmays24

Hi 1420sports,

I have a 1967 Topps Punch-Outs 3-card panel in original wrapper, the Team Captains are Orlando Cepeda, Mike Hershberger & Dick Groat... let me know if the player you need is one of those guys.

carew4me, let me know if you still want the 1973 Topps Candy Lid Proof of Rod Carew?

thank you,

Mike

bishop

What can you tell us about these odd sets, bobsbbcards ? And do you know anything about the 1964 Rookie Banquet cards; the 1965 Push Pulls; the 1968 3Ds; or the 1968 Discs; or 1967 Who Am I ; or the 1968 (no not the 69) Deckle Proofs; the 1969 Supers, the 1969 Team Posters, the 1969 4 on 1 Stickers, or even the 1969 Bowie Kuhn Card ? And then that elusive 1963 Mantle Mask/Plaque. Boy, Topps was sure busy in the 60s.

bobsbbcards

<< <i>What can you tell us about these odd sets, bobsbbcards ? And do you know anything about the 1964 Rookie Banquet cards; the 1965 Push Pulls; the 1968 3Ds; or the 1968 Discs; or 1967 Who Am I ; or the 1968 (no not the 69) Deckle Proofs; the 1969 Supers, the 1969 Team Posters, the 1969 4 on 1 Stickers, or even the 1969 Bowie Kuhn Card ? And then that elusive 1963 Mantle Mask/Plaque. Boy, Topps was sure busy in the 60s. >>


I'm afraid I've never heard of any of these sets. I was hoping somebody else had.

67standup

As you may know, I just sold the '67 and '68 Yaz Topps discs.

'67 Yaz disc

'68 Yaz disc

I'm probably gonna sell the '73 Yaz Topps Comic SGC 86 and '67 Topps Punchout SGC 80 soon along with a number of graded Yaz Venezuelans. However, I plan to keep my '67 Yaz Stand-up after searching for 10+ years.

bobsbbcards

Andrew,
Congratulations on your disc sales! I'll be interested to see how much the Punchout and Comic go for. Can't remember the last time I saw a '73 Comic up for sale on eBay. Wouldn't surprise me if you get some private offers before you get a chance to put it up there.
Bob

Not to plug one of the competing registries (we're all friends here aren't we?), but if anyone is interested in seeing more Topps Test discs, you can click on the following links. PSA doesn't grade either of these issues, so what was I to do?

1967 Topps S.F. Giants Test Discs

1967 Topps Test Discs

67standup

Bob, I never get tired of seeing your collection. I regret not sending the discs to Mastro, I set the reserves too low. It's not about greed, just dumb listing by me.

1967topps

bishop (home I'm not too late for the bishop...obscure Monty Python reference)

i can tell you the 1967 who am i's have very few baseball players in them.

And for 1420sports I just found out about the 1967 punchouts this week -
was on baseball-cards.com and they had one when I searched "Norm Cash" but since
he wasn't the captain I wasn't gonna pay $195 for an Aparicio captained team
where Norm is just pictured.

Paul
Norm cash standard issue and oddball collector
(though I meant oddball CARDS, you may interpret that differently)

sflayank

what would u like to know about these issues?
of all the cards you listed the 68 discs are the toughest
but the real tough one on that list is the 63 mantle mask or plaque
i have the finest one known of those so i know its rarity

sflayank

whats the lineup on yaz punchout

sflayank

67standup

It's splitting hairs, but I would place the 1966 Punchout - often confused with the 1967 Punchboard - right there with the mask as the rarest Topps test issue.







In regard to the '67 Yaz lineup:

WinPitcher

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This page has a list of all oddball topps stuff

Steve

QUITCRAB

Hi- I am new to the site-I love collecting -I just got back into it about five years ago-my main interest are 1960/70 Topps oddball and test issuesand trying to get every Brooks Robinson card during his playing career.This has really opened the way for me to collect issues other then the basic topps cards.Some of my favorite cards are Bazooka,Wheaties,Johnny Pro,and Milk Duds.I found this site while search the internet for "1968 topps action all star stickers"-I see someone did a great job answering Marc's question about the 60 test issues. The SCD is a great source-I am in need of the 1967 and 68 topps disc of Brooks Robinson and the 1967 Topps punchout of Brooks-I collect Brooks Stuff !!!! I will add this-I think that the topps disc was only produced as a full sheet , making single players even harder to find-if any one has the Brooks cards please notify me-I would love to see them , even as a scan, if the are not for sale.
Who is the player in all five sets that marc is looking for-maybe I can be of some help.
Also The 1968 topps action sticker set is posted on the net at this site-If you have never seen the whole set check it out-

http://gfg.com/baseball/68test.html

Take Care-Scott

CollectorChris

I believe the 1966 Topps Punchouts are rarity No. 1.

67standup

<< <i>trying to get every Brooks Robinson card during his playing career.
http://gfg.com/baseball/68test.html

Take Care-Scott >>



The '68 Topps 3D Prototype Brooks has to be right up there with the rarest of the rare:



(ever try scanning a page from the Standard Card Catalog?)

1420sports

This is some good stuff fellas. Looking forward to seeing any Rose pics ...

jackstraw

here it is in color.

found here

murcerfan

You know that there is a Bart Starr prototype that Xograph did too?
It's a big thing, about the size of a '74 puzzle...I think Brian Morris has/had it.

bobsbbcards

I remember seeing the Bart Starr prototype at Brian's table at the National a bunch of years past. He had a '68 3-D baseball set on consignment from somebody (can't remember his name but I've bought stuff from him too), the Starr card, a '68 3-D wrapper, and the Robinson prototype. Wanted $25,000 for the batch. Too bad my $25,000 was in my other pants at the time or I would have gobbled it up. Oh well.

Here's a pic of the '67 Topps Test Brooks Robby card (not for sale):



Here's a couple of neat Rose pics (back of 1968 Topps Plaks Checklist #2 & 1972 Topps Candy Lids proof):

magellan

Thanks for the great scans guys. I love this stuff.