Large Cent variety help?
tincup
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Greetings from a looooong time lurker! I have greatly enjoyed the discussions and expertise on this board - and would like to get some info on a possible large cent variety from one of you more familiar with the series.
The coin is an 1854 cent, with what appears to be a portion of another '5' located inside of the hair curls directly below the bust. In the normally empty space between the two hair curls above the '5' in the date, and directly below the bust line, is a strong horizontal line and vertical line, and another partial horizontal line, that appears to be the same dimensions as the upper left hand side of the numeral '5' in the date. Sorry - I haven't figured out how to post a scan of it directly to this post without using html. ------any info on variety, etc? -----thanx!
The coin is an 1854 cent, with what appears to be a portion of another '5' located inside of the hair curls directly below the bust. In the normally empty space between the two hair curls above the '5' in the date, and directly below the bust line, is a strong horizontal line and vertical line, and another partial horizontal line, that appears to be the same dimensions as the upper left hand side of the numeral '5' in the date. Sorry - I haven't figured out how to post a scan of it directly to this post without using html. ------any info on variety, etc? -----thanx!
----- kj
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I do not know the later dates but many here do.
Tbig
I wish I could answer. I know that many here can...
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Welcome to the forum! Regarding your 1854 Large Cent, there are a couple of possiblities, but it sounds like you have N-3 or N-4. There are a couple of other possibilities, but we are betting that it's N-3 or N-4. Believe it or not, that's actually the remnants of a stray 4 over the 5. Both are common varieties, R.1 and R.2, respectively.
If you can answer these questions, then perhaps we can pin-point the variety for you: 1) is the 4 in the date recut?, 2) is there a diagonal die break through the upper part of star 6?, 3) on the reverse, is there a shallow lump over the "EN" in "CENT"?
Thanks,
jadecoin
I can see no sign of recutting on the '4'; no diagonal die break is noticable on star 6; and I can see nothing unusual on the 'en' of cent on the reverse. The coin is probably an AU50, so does have some good detail and luster remaining; I used a 10x loupe to check for the above but could find none of those indications. Is there a way to post a scan in the body of a message, without using html? I know that would certainly be helpful to identify.
thanx for your help-----------
mailme
Thanks for the info. I've been a cherrypicker for many years, but for some reason have not really noticed the varieties on the large cents until now. Looks like time to pick up another reference book!
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Goose3---
Sending an email with scan attached; does not show the best detail but gives some idea of location of the repunched numeral. ------------thanx------------
I've got a coin just like yours. I've always believed the mark to be the top of a mispunched 8, or an upsidedown 5. I haven't been able to find any information on it, including the Sheldon book. I'll be watching to see what the results are here.
The scan isn't quite good enough for me to be sure what's there by the arrow but I think it may be N-3. Take a look at the attached scan of the same area of the N-3 and see if it isn't the same as what is on your coin.
If it is the same then what you are seeing is part of a 4. The vertical line is the right side of the upright of the 4 and the horizontal line is crossbar of the 4. You can see the crosslet of the 4 disappearing into the curls on the right.
Your closeup did the trick---- N3 it is! I was puzzled for some time on how that was actually a '4'; but it became much more apparent after looking at the picture. The only difference I can see, is that my coin does not have the die break on the '4' on the date, so mine must be an earlier die state.
Thanks for the expertise----- this board is tops!!
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