Independent evaluation of 70 material?

Cameo CC

As more and more 70 material comes out, what do you think about an group studying and evaluating the quality of these 70’s material?

In there evaluation, the group would come up with objective guidelines for why PCGS or NGC placed these coins in a 70 holder. Then produce a document showing the similarities and contrasts between the two main grading services and provide new guidelines for both services to use for future 70 material.

We would like to be part of this group. If you would let to part as well, PM or Email me.

Todd

meos1

Todd;


I think your right on the money and a nonprofit not for profit organization directed by numismatist would be great! They an't all be top stop coins. What do I need to do to help you? I have skills in IT and focus on SAE and walking liberty along with modern commems and SQ. Just let me know.

Dan

MoneyLA

Okay, suppose you find that the 70s arent 70s... then what? Do you check the 69s and the 68s and go down the line?? A more important thing to do is to teach the coin collecting public that grading standards will vary among third party grading companies, that they should be aware of what they buy and inspect what they buy, and (as we all have heard over and over) buy the coin and not the holder. cheers, alan mendelson

Steve27

Unless you're willing to liberate the coins from the slabs, all 70s and high end 69s will look the same.

Cameo CC

Steve27 - One does not have to remove the coin from the holder to examine the characteristics of the coin - I would suggest.

Todd

fcloud

I think it would be interesting to see what was found. I purchased one PR70 just to have a 70 for comparison reasons, and I don't get why people are willing to pay any more for a 70 than a 69. To me it looks like buying plastic. I don't see purchasing any additional 70 coins, but if one showed up in one of my submissions to PCGS that would be okay.

Tony

wingedliberty

Todd:
Excellent thread. The PCGS/NGC 70s that I have made and have evaluated have literally been perfect except for very few examples that are premium 69s. The criteria for a 70 is simple. The coin needs to be perfect and noticably superior in strike , luster , and eye appeal. I think you would find that 95/100 70s that are in PCGS/NGC holders meet that criteria.

Brian.

wingedliberty

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Cameo CC

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Todd

dorkkarl

ms-70 is supposed to mean 1 simple thing: a perfect coin.

nothing can be perfect, therefore, the grade cannot be achieved. for me, any coin slabed as ms-70 is automatically & unreservedly overgraded.

you don't need a more independent evaluation than that

K S