Roosevelt Registry FB submissions . . .

DMWJR · April 16, 2003 2:11PM

I pulled the dimes I thought would make FB from my MS 1946-2002 registry sets and sent them in. 46 coins, including several "maybe's." Also sent in 13 extras which might make it. I'll post results when I get them.

Anybody else sent theirs in yet?

Colorfulcoins · April 16, 2003 2:37PM

Sent in a total of 43 coins today..........sounds as if designation turn-arounds are approaching 4 weeks.....

melikecoins · April 16, 2003 2:54PM

Can not wait to hear your results.
So far I sent 1 in Yesterday, I'm not as optimistic as you guys .
Glen

DMWJR · April 16, 2003 3:07PM

Glen . . . I am only concerned about my ego and the typical deflation that follows a PCGS submission. I think I have calibrated my expection to meet with the sheets afterwards.

I would like to do something with you Registry Set collectors. I say we collect the data on FB's before PCGS put them up, so we can know what to work on for the next several months.

Anybody game for this???

Stooge · April 16, 2003 11:32PM

I sent in all 74 of my dimes whether or not they will get a FB. If they plan on re-slabbing them then more power to them. they received my dimes on 4/15, so i will let you know what I get also.

White Fang...you should have more then just 46 dimes, come on, your collections are out of sight!

Just helpin with that ego

Paul B. Gunsallus

onlyroosies · April 17, 2003 7:42AM

Doug, I checked the pop reports and there already showing FB dimes on the pop report. If I
remember right about 20 are already on the pop report.

DMWJR · April 17, 2003 7:47AM

!!!!!!!!!

I'll have to check the report! Thanks.

Colorfulcoins · April 17, 2003 8:48AM

Nick - new icon..........cool looking coin! FB?????? <g>

melikecoins · April 17, 2003 9:16AM

Doug
Your idea that we all can benefit from sharing is a good one.

Nick and I have shared some data already about raw/slabs FB's.
I have made a bunch of new purchases in the last couple of weeks and have to update alot, when I'm done should I post it for all?

As far as grading of FB goes.

If they (grader) are any thing like they are with FS nickels, then some people are going to be disappointed. They (grader) will not be braking out the 15X to see if the bands are split. If it can not be seen with a 5X then it will not be FB.

The Pop Report

A very good place to start and should get better later, but for now you can't put to much stock in it. Once we have several months of data then we will see a ratio form as to number submitted to the number of FB.

Glen

cointime · April 17, 2003 11:21AM

Doug et al,

PCGS received my coins on the 10th. I am wondering if it will only take 10 days for the review as David Hall said in another post. Out of the 7 coins only 2 are in my type set, so I hope to possibly post the others on the BS&T board after they get back. Also I'm not sure if anyone else has coins a head of mine but I was going to try and post a picture of my 1973-D which I think may not make the "FB" but close.

Ken

Edited to say: Sorry I mis quoted and it was not Mr. Hall. It was actually BJ's post to a question on current designation review que time in days.

onlyroosies · April 17, 2003 12:06PM

I have some in received on the 7th. Not back yet......

chiefbob · April 18, 2003 9:47PM

I just got two graded:

1996-W MS68FB
1996-W MS66FB

If anyone is interested in either of these, please PM me with an offer. Otherwise, I am putting the MS68FB on eBay.

Bob

DMWJR · April 18, 2003 11:53PM

Ken, I would like to see a photo of the bands on your 73-d. Can you post it?

BJ · April 19, 2003 12:48AM

Hi All,

PCGS committed to 10 days for the designation review and that's what is expected. If anyone's submission goes past 10 business days, please email me and I will push it.

cosmicdebris · April 19, 2003 12:49AM

Hey BJ I think it is time to get a lighter under DH's butt for that set I am waiting for.

Casabrown · April 19, 2003 2:33AM

BJ,

I am glad to hear that commitmemt restated as I have three separate shipments totaling over 60 coins.

Casabrown

cointime · April 19, 2003 5:19AM

Doug,

I did not scan it before I sent it in, but will post it when it comes back. Also I checked the status on my invoice and nothing yet. Then I was just checking my type set and noticed my 1948-S shows MS67FB now

That got me to thinking, so I checked all my others (total 7) and 2 others both 1999 show "FB". I would have thought they would get a new cert#, yet they just updated the current cert.

I don't think they are done, because a few of the others imho s/b "FB" also. I'll just wait and watch.

BTW the 1948-S MS67FB shows as pop 2/0 wow! Not a tough date, but low pop for now.

BJ,
Thanks for jumping in. I had no doubt.

Ken

Stooge · April 19, 2003 11:44PM

PCGS is starting to grade my Roosevelts, because some have shown up on my silver set with FB designation. I only have 20% of the set but they are starting to appear. I have 3 so far.

They havn't graded my clad set as of yet.

Paul B. Gunsallus

mansco · April 21, 2003 11:02AM

Does anyone know if you have to submit a different invoice for each 20 coins sent in for the designation review? Or can you send them in as one lot to save on the return shipping?

DMWJR · April 21, 2003 12:11PM

Mansco, good question. I have never submitted more than 20 on one submission before either, so I used several submissions and put them in the same box. I put a letter in asking them to ship them all back together and used the shipping charge equal to the total of all the submissions. I have no idea if this was the correct way to do it, but that is what I did. I probably should have called first.

DMWJR · April 21, 2003 12:12PM

My submission for FB showed up today 4/21, so I will report the FB's when they post them.

cointime · April 22, 2003 9:07AM

Update on my 7 coins:
1948-S MS67FB
1996-W MS67 no go
1999-D MS68 no go
1973-D MS66 no go
1984-P MS66 no go
1999-P MS67FB
1999-D MS67FB

I guess that the one I'm really shocked about is the MS68. I guess it is not a sure thing that a MS68 is a full strike

I will take a closer look when the coins arrive back home. I'm wondering if their (standards)are a little tight at first, out of the gate? They were shipped today. I'm looking forward to everyone else's results.

Ken

melikecoins · April 22, 2003 9:50AM

ttt

Colorfulcoins · April 22, 2003 2:25PM

Mansco, you can send as many coins as you want on a single submission form - really submission number - if ALL the coins are only Rosy FB designation review coins. I just sent in 43 coins written on 3 different PCGS submission forms and PCGS lumped them all under the 1st submission number - so it means all will come back together is a group also reduces post/shipping costs.

mansco · April 23, 2003 1:49AM

Craig,

did you cross out the submission number on two of the forms and write in the submission number you were using?

Mansco

Colorfulcoins · April 23, 2003 4:31AM

Mansco, no I did not. I actually put stickers on all the coins with a submission number (actually 3 given 43 coins). I also called PCGS Cust service and they said if would go on one submission number but I sent in as 3 anyway - when I got my confirmation email regarding receipt, if was for only one submission number - the 1st of the 3.........so I guess it works just like PCGS Cust service told me!

DMWJR · April 23, 2003 5:53AM

All four of my submission numbers have now appeared . . . . hmmm . . . I guess I don't care as long as they review for designation.

Stooge · April 23, 2003 6:43AM

Cointime...I'm very shocked to see that your 1999 MS68 came back w/o FB. I am starting to believe that there may be no date and/or grade that is safe from no FB.

Just for the record, I sent in 74 dimes and put them all on 1 submission form. I just printed the entire first form with the invoice # and then went to a second form. When I was done loading my next 20 dimes, I just printed that section of the second form and put it with the first an so on...

Good luck everyone, Paul.

mansco · April 23, 2003 7:58AM

I just talked to PCGS customer service and they said you could submit more than 20 coins as one package. Just lable the second, third, groups of 20 coins as page 2, 3, etc.

cointime · April 26, 2003 2:15AM

Paul et al,

Received my coins back yesterday. About the 1999-D MS68, it was my blind faith and naked eye that got caused me to assume this was a shoe in for "FB" The lower band had a couple contact marks crossing the split and is accurately graded as non "FB" that were clearly visible with a 5x loop.

I wanted to share one more thing, I felt of importance and a pay to see what they say test. Two reverse pictures of a 1984-P MS66. The first one looks as if it could have a lower "FB" and I looked at this one before I sent it in with a loop. The second closeup picture shows some flatness on the right hand side, where it should be rounded as the Merc's. Even though the lite split goes around to the right
(which is hard to tell by these pictures). The band must be more rounded, which I must say will knock out many Roosies from "FB". Take a look at the pictures for reference and add your comments as well as anything I may have missed.

1984-P MS66 rev 1
1984-P MS66 rev 2

Ken

melikecoins · April 26, 2003 10:17AM

Cointime
you can see that your 84 is not FB, there is (like you said ) no band on the right side just slanted flat spot.
You will find that this area will bring 95% of the hopefull FB down.
I have been checking clad Roosie's for months and have every little that will pass the FB test.
Although 81 - 84 are not to hard to get with FBs, you do have to be able to see the FBs only using 5X.
I do not have the equipment to take close pcitures or I would show you some of mine.
I have a nice little pop report on these clads if you have an interest in them.
Glen

DMWJR · April 26, 2003 10:31AM

Glen, I would certainly be interested in a PM with your pop experience.

BTW, Anacs just started giving the FB designation to. I guess everyone jumped on the band wagon.

cladking · April 26, 2003 10:46AM

<< <i>

I have a nice little pop report on these clads if you have an interest in them.
Glen >>

I'd love to see it also.

cointime · April 26, 2003 11:13AM

Glen,

Please do send me a copy of your report. The 1948-S MS67 "FB" which I sent in at the same time, is for now only a pop "2"

it is fully struck and white. This was just a test for me to see what PCGS may consider "FB". I"m not sure we will see very many "FB" in the early 70's either. This sure makes it challenging, not to mention the tough dates

Ken

Roosevelt Registry FB submissions . . .

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