Grades from PCGS and NGC are in!
MadMarty
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Both orders were shipped and received on the same days. The PCGS order got back here a week before the NGC order. I also learned something else today, NGC is MUCH tougher on Jeffersons than PCGS for full steps. With PCGS I got 8 Full Step Nickels back, with NGC zero, zip, nada, nothing.
The PCGS order:
PCGS Order Status for Invoice # 3000814
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE
1 90085195 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085196 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085192 1971-D 5C MS65
1 90085193 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085194 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085189 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085190 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085191 1971-D 5C MS65
1 90085186 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085187 1971-D 5C MS63
1 90085188 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085183 1971-D 5C MS65
1 90085184 1971-D 5C MS64
1 90085185 1971-D 5C MS65
Date Received: 03/12/2003
Date Shipped: 04/08/2003
The NCG Order
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE
1 2043297-003 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-004 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-005 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-006 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-007 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-002 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-009 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-001 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-008 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-010 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-001 1971-D 5C MS65
The PCGS order:
PCGS Order Status for Invoice # 3000814
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE
1 90085195 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085196 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085192 1971-D 5C MS65
1 90085193 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085194 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085189 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085190 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085191 1971-D 5C MS65
1 90085186 1971-D 5C MS65FS
1 90085187 1971-D 5C MS63
1 90085188 1971-D 5C MS64FS
1 90085183 1971-D 5C MS65
1 90085184 1971-D 5C MS64
1 90085185 1971-D 5C MS65
Date Received: 03/12/2003
Date Shipped: 04/08/2003
The NCG Order
LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE
1 2043297-003 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-004 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-005 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-006 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-007 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-002 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-009 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-001 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-008 1971-D 5C MS66
1 2043297-010 1971-D 5C MS65
1 2043297-001 1971-D 5C MS65
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
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Comments
How are the grades compared to what you expected?
Russ, NCNE
Am I right in assuming you thought they all would get FS?
The grades were right about what I expected, a little lower at PCGS and a bit higher at NGC, but the FS thing (all the NGC coins were 5-5.5 steps) really threw me. Basicly I pissed my NGC money away.
Pennies make dollars, and dollars make slabs!
....inflation must be kicking in again this dollar says spend by Dec. 31 2004!
Erik
did you get them at a casino and checked them before feeding the slot machines!?!
got quite a few cherries
ching ching ching!
congrats. btw NGC is also tougher on FBL and FB, dont know about FH.
I'll be glad when the services drop all the series specific strike designators and just evaluate and break out the strike grade from the overall grade).
(along with separate luster, toning, etc grades, where warrented
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Why for Pete's sake 1971's? They have got to be the easiest of all Jefferson to make.
Glen
<< <i>Marty what about a proof 1964, how good would it have to be to make it worthwhile >>
Cockney,
If you're talking about the nickel, you need at least PR69CAM or PR68DCAM to make it worth submitting.
Russ, NCNE
if you expected to get a Full Step designation with anything less than 6 complete and unbridged steps, the above is a correct statement. also, going on the assumption that the coins were on average equal, it should come as no surprise that the NGC coins were graded higher. i find that they routinely grade the series from 1-3 points higher than PCGS, both proof and mint state. perhaps that's in defference to the stricter FS designation.
al h.
This is for you number guys.
PCGS avg grade - 64.5
NGC avg grade - 65.5
Percent FS @ PCGS 57%
Percent FS at NGC 0%
Avg per coin value based on CU price guide rounding the grade for both to 65 and 66 respectively, and including the non-FS PCGS coins.
PCGS = $27.86
NGC $5.00
As a submitter, PCGS is the service of choice for this lot. As a buyer, NGC is the choice for this lot.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
if you were walking down the road with a canoe under your arm and one of it's wheels fell off,
then how many pancakes would it take to fill up a doghouse ?
MadMarty??? why did you submit all the same thing? If 1 came back MS67 FS would you be way ahead?