Move over Hal Naragon

paigowmichael · April 7, 2003 8:19PM

I've resigned myself to having to put together my '57 Topps set in mostly PSA 5s and 6s, so I haven't been paying much attention the PSA 8 market but this auction caught my eye.

Check out the PSA 6 (Yes, PSA 6) Lou Berberet on ebay right now.

If you thought $1,000 was a lot for a PSA 8 common was bad, this will put you over the edge. :-)

Never learned how to do the links here and don't have time to learn for this post. Sorry.

rbeaton · April 7, 2003 8:29PM

Link to PSA-6.

Wow! It's not even a low pop card.

Robert

mikeschmidt · April 7, 2003 9:18PM

That bid can't be real. Here's $10- saying the bid doesn't stay and/or the deal doesn't go through.

Even gaspipe would like the odds on this one!

toppsgun · April 7, 2003 9:59PM

<"That bid can't be real.">

You mean "bids" (plural). There's two of them four-figure suckers. What if Mr. #1 Bidder backs off, cancels his bid and somebody re-enters at $1,099? Wonder what Keith thinks?

braves72078 · April 7, 2003 10:03PM

<< <i>That bid can't be real. Here's $10- saying the bid doesn't stay and/or the deal doesn't go through.

Even gaspipe would like the odds on this one! >>

What is the justification for that statement????????? The high bidder has 2218 positive feedbacks, 0 negatives, and has NEVER retracted a bid.

mikeschmidt · April 7, 2003 10:38PM

I'm just going with my gut on this one, guys.

The card is maybe a $20 card. Tops. The card has a HUGE population in high grade -- something like 48 PSA 8's out of 100 examples submitted.

finleyjr@multipro.com bids on many 1957 Topps cards -- but none in amounts like this. Only two other bids over $100, and that was for Jim Bunning and a Yankees Power Hitters card.

mojasprt@aol.com bids on 1957 PSA cards -- but has never paid more than $20-$30 for a PSA 6, except for a star card.

Bottom line is this: Bidding seems to be way too non-sensical to make me believe it is legitimate. Now I do not suggest that I have any knowledge of what is going on with who, where, why, etc. But this is a common card in high population. Both bidders seem to have superb Ebay reputations. I do not pretend that I know what is going on or why.

Nonetheless -- I cannot accept that this auction will be completed at this price level to the buyer's and seller's satisfaction. There seems to be no legitimate reason for a 50x price level on this card, which is why I cannot accept it. I hope for andiehaley's sake that everything is legitimate. He is a superb dealer, and I have had positive transactions with him.

For my money's worth, I'll take this ungraded example at 1/1000 of the price

mikeschmidt · April 7, 2003 10:39PM

braves72078:

Would you like to take me up on the $10 bet that the deal does not go through for $1,125 or more, and that both the seller and buyer receive positive feedback? If so, PM me and consider it a bet.

MS

Mantlefan · April 7, 2003 10:40PM

Very strange...that's a $10 card. The under bidder can have my PSA 8 Berberet for $1000!

mikeschmidt · April 7, 2003 10:40PM

P.S. Our friend with amazing inventory, Levi Bleam, has a PSA 7 Near Mint example of this card in inventory for $50.

Right here

acowa · April 7, 2003 11:00PM

If the deal does go through, should we update SMR pricing on the card with a "+"?

Regards,

Alan

waitilltheytrytosell · April 7, 2003 11:06PM

P.S. Our friend with amazing inventory, Jay Wolt, has a PSA 6 ExMt example of this card in inventory for $20.

Right Here

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 12:53AM

I'm totally baffled by this whole scenerio. My $20 PSA-6 is a hard sale because for a few dollars more a PSA-7 can be had. But $1125.00 on Keith's PSA-6 is something out of the Twilight Zone...jay

rbeaton · April 8, 2003 1:11AM

Jay,

Maybe you need to advertise it as a 1 of 8 with only 7 lower

Robert

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 1:40AM

ROBERT - How 'bout this for a tag line...Buy one on eBay for "$1125.00 or this one for $20.00"

...jay

Basilone · April 8, 2003 2:08AM

Jay-

Please list your PSA6 on eBay.....lets see what it brings....what the heck. I will even pay for your listing fees. We can advertise the hell out of it on these boards.

John

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 2:30AM

JOHN - I will place my beauty of Berberet on PSA tonight. I'm hoping to meet or exceed the $20 web price I have. And my card while still oc is about 10% less oc then Keiths. So we will see what happens...jay

waitilltheytrytosell · April 8, 2003 2:48AM

I don't know about running that gem on Ebay. I'd call Mastro and negotiate a sweet consignment deal.
Although my buy price remains at $9.99 with that special 60¢ shipping deal.

goodriddance189 · April 8, 2003 4:36AM

what in the F.....

that is truly bizarre

helionaut · April 8, 2003 6:38AM

Guess we'll never know the story on that one. It was just ended early with all bids cancelled. I would have thought the high bidder just typed in his max incorrectly, but with another bidder pushing him, that person was going pretty high, too.

waitilltheytrytosell · April 8, 2003 7:04AM

Yep, probably heading to Mastro for their next millenium auction.

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 8:27AM

Geez! I was gonna run my auction with a link of that $1125.00 Gem. I'll still eBay it, and start it at $1.00, and will see what the legend of Lou Berberet has in store.

...jay

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 9:15AM

GIRLS - BOYS - LADIES - GENTLEMAN ---Come One! Come all to the most incedible exciting fantastic auction on this planet - Bid Early! & Bid Often...The Action packed auction is starting at less then 1/10 of 1% of the "other's" $1125. top bid - Starting at just $1.00....

The Super Duper Awesome rarely offered LOU BERBERET PSA-6

Virtualizard · April 8, 2003 9:24AM

Jay,

This is SPAM! The Buy, Sell, & Trade Forum is the proper place for this type of post.

Did you notify the two bidders on Keith's auction that you had posted it? If you want, I'll shill it up to a grand for you!

Good luck.

JEB.

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 9:36AM

JEB - Sorry for the admitted spam of this fine lot. But Basilone prompted me to list the card, and I obliged since thats what the masses want. The other auction has no relevant info. so none of the bidders can be found, but they have 7 days to find this auction on their own. Oh and feel free to bid $1000 on the lot, hopefully someone will match it and I'll even comp you the shipping/insurance fee. Remember this isn't just a card, its LOU BERBERET!!! ...jay

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 9:40AM

Holy Crap! Theres actually several bids on this card, a virtual who's who from the message boards. I have a feeling this will be a game like "hot potato" many will bid, and all will hope someone will top them

...jay

gemint · April 8, 2003 9:47AM

I just threw my two bits into the auction. A few thousand more bids like this, and you'll duplicate the performance of the other auction!

mrc32 · April 8, 2003 9:54AM

Count me in....this should be an interesting.....

mrc32 · April 8, 2003 9:55AM

WOW- my high bid didn't even last 1 minute!

There sure are a LOT of people who want this card!

Cubfan · April 8, 2003 10:01AM

We will see how long my bid lasts. I had to change it while bidding.

This could be a $10 winner with 40 bids placed on it

.

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 10:03AM

Apparently there is a huge following for BERBERET, its been viewed around 3 dozen times and has almost 10 bids all within an hour or 2 of when it was posted. Yesterday I put on 13 PSA-8 1958's, many are centered and beautiful, 24 hours later only 1 bid on 1 of the 13, the reason for the inactivity, there was no LOU BERBERET!...jay

Wayne8348 · April 8, 2003 10:43AM

YES!!! I'm the high bidder!!!!

Wayne

Cubfan · April 8, 2003 10:54AM

Nuts!!!!! I got overbid by that deep-pocketed Wayne!!! Ill have to dig around for another couple of quarters.

aconte · April 8, 2003 11:04AM

Watch out for gemmintman. He likes to snipe with one second to go. I could see him doing that
here and somehow trying to convince the registry folks to add this as card #61 to the 64 Topps
Giants.

aconte

sellerman23 · April 8, 2003 11:08AM

I almost died when I saw that Wayne was the high bidder on this one! I am definitely going to bid on this card. Here is what I think happened. EBay had a decimal slide. I'll bet those guys were bidding $11.25, not $1,125.00. They probably contacted the seller and he ended the auction early. The reason I say this is because just a few minutes ago I clicked on an auction that I had been watching that had like 13 hours left on it. When the auction opened up, it said that the auction had ended, but the regular line about it ending early was not there. And I found that I could still bid on it at the bottom. So I did. And I got outbid. And then auction went back to normal when I refreshed the page. It did not end early afterall. Weird, huh? There might some some virus at eBay or a malfunction or something. Just my theory. :-/

Dave
sellerman23

Virtualizard · April 8, 2003 11:32AM

Jay,

You should have forked over the extra $0.10 to Ebay for the 10 day auction. At the current rate of bidding, you could have gotten several thousand bids! You'll probably have to settle for a little under $1,000 final bid for the 7 day auction!

JEB.

mrc32 · April 8, 2003 11:32AM

It looks to me like ACOWA is shilling for quality...not fair!

Virtualizard · April 8, 2003 11:36AM

<< <i>It looks to me like ACOWA is shilling for quality...not fair!

>>

No fair! My shill bid was placed first.

I believe this may be the first ever "shill bidding war".

Wouldn't it be funny if someone outside of the message board actually ended up winning the card for an outrageous amount?

JEB.

LuxuryWines · April 8, 2003 12:38PM

YES!!!! I am the high bidder ...WOW I could win this thing for pennies on the $... How exciting...

uniship · April 8, 2003 1:20PM

Isn't it interesting how some cards just take on a life of their own?

The T206 Wagner in PSA 8

Any 54 bowman mantle graded psa 6 but way off center,

Any 57 Lou Berberet in PSA 6,

etc etc etc.

qualitycards · April 8, 2003 3:33PM

21 bids and 100+ hits in the first 5 hours of the auction, forget Mantle, Koufax or Mays...Lou Berberet rules

...jay

FB · April 8, 2003 8:36PM

How could I not bid???

Its like a PSA 7 in a PSA 6 holder!!!!!

I'm not too worried about gemmintman sniping me at the end - be EXMTMAN could be a problem!!!

rbeaton · April 8, 2003 8:37PM

Well, I was high bidder for an hour or so.

Robert

Wayne8348 · April 8, 2003 8:54PM

Rightfully so I have regained the top spot in the auction!

I have inside information that this card should have actually have been a psa 7. If I win then I'm going to resubmit and make a fortune.

wayne

LuxuryWines · April 8, 2003 9:55PM

Wayne,

Are you sure ? I thought it was a high end 6... I might just have to up my snipe

Basilone · April 8, 2003 10:21PM

Maybe Ive been drinking .... but this card looks like a SCD 11 in a PSA 6 holder.

John

waitilltheytrytosell · April 8, 2003 10:26PM

Lou Berberet for the player registry!

Cubfan · April 15, 2003 8:46AM

Congrats to Zardoz for the huge win on the big Lou.

I thought there might be some last minute sniping, but I think the other bidders (including myself) figured his maximum bid would dwarf any snipe and was therefore unsnipeable

.

Like a previous post said, the list of bidders is like a who's who of the boards.

That was a lot of fun

.

Virtualizard · April 15, 2003 8:58AM

Congratulations Jay!

That was a slick move you made by capitalizing on the popularity of the previous "Lou" auction. Although you didn't realize the prices that the previous auction could have, you still pocket $15 for a card that probably would have sat in your inventory for years.

Still spam though!

JEB.

FB · April 15, 2003 9:16AM

Hey JEB!

You're right! That was spam!!! Lets beat im up!!!!

qualitycards · April 15, 2003 9:58AM

JEB - As a good will gesture to the legendary ZARDOZ for winning this card, I will send it to him gratis, no charge for card or shipping & insurance. So am I still convicted of the crime of Spam, If i did not profit at all?, in fact losing money on the eBay insertion & final selling fees. Perhaps ZARDOZ may start a yearly tradition every April with the "Passing Of The Berberet" he can decide on the parameters of this yearly prize if he so chooses. The card ended w/ 28 bids and over 200 hits, so apparently this is a card to be reckoned with

...jay

acowa · April 15, 2003 10:54AM

Jay,

Is this card yours... I am in the market for some high end 1964 hockey cards. Email if you have any others for sale.

Regards,

Alan

Move over Hal Naragon

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