With respect to the issue of Selling on the boards
wondercoin
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LET'S NOT REINVENT HISTORY.
Thank you Lucy and Roger for locating the prior thread where it was CONCLUSIVELY decided by CU (again) that coins were permitted to be sold on this board.
Any references to breaking the rules by selling here or sleazy offerings were out of line.
BJ's DECISION LAST TIME:
<< Thank you all for your feedback. It is pretty clear to me that you wish this board to remain status quo and that you are able to self-monitor it with no problem. Therefore, from my perspective, no further action is needed.
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LUCY's COMMENT: This was from BJ in reponse to this same issue in Dec., then, as know, the majority didn't see any issues with offerings of PCGs slabbed registry quality coins..... It was stated that BJ only got complaints and not supportive pms on the practice of selling coins on this forum. Maybe those of us whom don't have any issue with this need to get more vocal.
MEMBER POLL APPROVING SELLING ON THIS BOARD (CURRENTLY): YES/YES BUT: 61; NO/NO BUT: 22.
Wondercoin
Thank you Lucy and Roger for locating the prior thread where it was CONCLUSIVELY decided by CU (again) that coins were permitted to be sold on this board.
Any references to breaking the rules by selling here or sleazy offerings were out of line.
BJ's DECISION LAST TIME:
<< Thank you all for your feedback. It is pretty clear to me that you wish this board to remain status quo and that you are able to self-monitor it with no problem. Therefore, from my perspective, no further action is needed.
>>
LUCY's COMMENT: This was from BJ in reponse to this same issue in Dec., then, as know, the majority didn't see any issues with offerings of PCGs slabbed registry quality coins..... It was stated that BJ only got complaints and not supportive pms on the practice of selling coins on this forum. Maybe those of us whom don't have any issue with this need to get more vocal.
MEMBER POLL APPROVING SELLING ON THIS BOARD (CURRENTLY): YES/YES BUT: 61; NO/NO BUT: 22.
Wondercoin
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i don't really think any of the past few days discussion was anything more than..........discussion. obviously you took it a bit too close to heart. why would that be, mitch?? maybe cause if there were some type of change you would be restricted in your selling habits? whatever.
and it isn't like the current thread that started the discussion on the topic was intentionally posted as such. it was actually quite incidental and gained momentum from the fact that some members don't agree with the selling on the registry forum. not a big deal or some kind of conspiracy and certainly nothing for you to accuse some of being troublemakers.
here's an interesting point given the recent saturday post by greg m.-----go to the thread linked by Rella and read greg's post. very enlightening. here it is. greg's reply is towards the bottom of page one.
if someone who doesn't agree with your view on an issue is a troublemaker, count me as among that number. you really need to chill out some, IMHO.
al h.
BJ said one thing, Carol another. I am sure who ever agrees with you is correct, while who ever disagrees is incorrect. Seems to be the way it is. If this causes this much "trouble", maybe it should be placed in black and white instead of "I think it should be this way, so you are wrong" point of view so many use here.
As I said many times before, WHATEVER the rules on selling are for this board, I will happily abide by them. At this point, selling is permitted and always has been.
Wondercoin
You have written numerous clearer and more convincing posts than that. In fact, I'm wondering if someone else has stolen your ID!
Are all coins now ok to post? Registry coins only? Only coins from Registry sets? What constitutes Registry quality? And so on.
And, I believe my initial post was clear enough that members like yourself (and Laura who offered an opinion as well) who were not around here regularly over the years were not aware of the prior decisions of CU (but, I modified my post anyway to clean it up - thanks Mark).
Wondercoin
None of the above can be accomplished without coins changin' hands, and not too many change hands without some sellin' involved! It just seems like a natural progession to me.
Don
edited to add: Two people sayin' two different things is one thing, but one person sayin' two different things is another!
Your argument would imply selling should be allowed on the US forum also, how can you possible do these things with respect to all US coins without being allowed to sell them.
Ironic that the person who created this board has an interpretation of the rules different than the "majority", so they must be wrong. Carol needs to figure out her own rules I guess.
If I recall, BJ initially said no selling, and this was modified later on after discussion. I may be wrong in this recollection though.
Still think we should leave the rules fuzzy for all to see them the way they want them to be?
I don't understand how my arguement implies that selling would be okay on the U.S Coin forum. The desciption of that forum does not include "building", "buying", "selling", or "collecting"; all of which involve coins changin' hands.
You seem to have done a 180 on this. On the old thread, you seem to agree with Tom B's statement: "That is, any PCGS coin can be registered, and, therefore, any PCGS coin should be allowed sold here." What's up?!?
Don
Ironically, this would be within both Carol's and BJ's reading of the rules. I will just continue to do this until we get clarification.
I believe it was determined throughout the years that offerings should be contained in as few threads as possible, preferably one (at the request of some members who wanted the ability to simply not click open the "Coins for Sale" thread). But, within that single thread, if someone wanted to offer hundreds of PCGS coins at a price of $5 each, I would see nothing wrong with it.
Wondercoin
A couple of things to keep in mine:
1. A decission may be made today by (board members) but may not be accepted as necessary by (tomorrows) board members. Times change. Needs change. Members will change.
2. If a vote is the way to determine the outcome, let there be a vote (QUICKLY) and let's get past the bickering.
With regards to bickering, I'm sure there's something else that can be bickered about.
"Senorita HepKitty"
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................................... all the clever talk
sincerely michael
Edited to add: I love how it is always guised in how it is doing us all such a favor in bringing these coins to our attention.