Awesome toning in GSA slabs

sinin1

I thought I heard before GSA slabs did not have any dollars with toning because the good ones were separated out before the government slabbed them.

While searching eBay, I saw a couple - one with fabric/cloth toning -

and another with ????bag???? - cool colors - lot 167?(or 169 maybe) in the Superior sale

So what's the deal - are these real??? or AT and reglued slabs??

K6AZ

They only put white coins in the black holders that say "UNCIRCULATED SILVER DOLLAR". The toned coins were separated and put in the identical black holders, but they just said "SILVER DOLLAR'. At the time, toned coins were looked at as sub-standard.

stman

The one in the Superior sale is a Fake, it's AT, the slab has been busted open in 50 pieces and all glued back together.

stman

Sinn1.... Just want to make sure you know I was joking by my last post. I happen to collect the toned Gsa CC Morgans. And I'm watching the one offered by Superior. I will view it in person at the Santa Clara show next weekend.

K6AZ

stman- Have a link to it?

gsaguy

Sinin1,

I can assure you that GSA's come with nice toning. I'm down to my last 300 or so.

GSAGUY

stman

KGAZ....... Now Why would I want to link you to a coin I want. Well believe it or not I'm a good sport.
Here you go. It's MINE I'd be surprised if it's that bright in person.

gsaguy

K6AZ,

<<They only put white coins in the black holders that say "UNCIRCULATED SILVER DOLLAR". The toned coins were separated and put in the identical black holders, but they just said "SILVER DOLLAR'. At the time, toned coins were looked at as sub-standard.>>

You're correct in that MOST of the toned coins were placed in the "Silver Dollar" holders, but not all of them. I've got a number of them that are 100% toned on the obverse that are in the "Uncirculated Silver Dollar" holders. These are typically 1880-CC's. I've also found a couple (and only a couple) of 1884-CC with a small amount of toning that also went in the USD holders.

Why the 1880-CC's? I don't know. There was obviously something that took place during the sorting process that lead them to consider these coins differently. However, in the research for my book I've not found any specific mention of this particular issue.

GSAGUY

sinin1

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2166225530&category=28292
eBay/Superior

Sorry for you guys wanting to win this one - I saw the estimate of $100-150 and had to laugh.

I'm thinking the bidding will still be fierce at $500

K6AZ

Bryan- you are right I have seen a few in the USD holders, but most I have seen are just SD- as a matter of fact I bought an 84-CC in the SD last week, a solid 64 with a nice reverse crescent.

stman- It's all yours. I have a huge shipment arriving this week that I will need to pay for so no more buys for a while. I don't know, the image looks enhanced to me, it would be interesting to see what that coin really looks like.

crito

Nobody said all toned GSA Morgans are AT... that would be as stupid as saying all 100 year old white Morgans have been dipped

gsaguy

K6AZ,

You're correct. I'd say something like 99% are in the SD holders because toned 1880-CC's aren't very common. I just wanted to make the point that no ALL of them are.

Sorry, I was a scientist by training and precision was pounded into my thick skull.

GSAGUY

K6AZ

Bryan, I'll tell you a funny story, this happened to me a couple of years ago. I sold a nice MS63 82-CC in the SD holder with a 40% crescent on the obverse for $200. The buyer sent it back to me because the holder didn't say uncirculated! I wound up reselling the coin to a dealer at the Northern VA coin show for $225. I wish I had that coin now, would probably go for a lot more.

sinin1

Lots of bids on that superior dollar -

Did anyone see it in person and were the greens and yellows and reds as vivid in person as the picture?

For the people that bid, could you put in prices or was it a bid next increment (and then you found out it was a few hundred dollars higher than you thought).

Sorry GSAguy, but I see you did get a bid in, agentjim was bidding until the end -

Is jrg1152 on the boards with a different handle? stman did you bid?

lablover

<< <i>For the people that bid, could you put in prices or was it a bid next increment >>



Absentee bids allowed for price bidding...during the live bidding it was next increment.

stman

Sinn1, I had hoped to be at the Santa Clara show Friday to view the coin in the Superior auction. I couldn't make it Friday so I did indeed bid online. I put a fairly decent bid in but knew it wouldn't be strong enough to win it. Being sight unseen, I wasn't willing to go for the gusto. I collect these toners and I'd be surprised if it was that bright of a coin. It went for 550.00 plus 20% juice.

Edit to add.... while at the show Saturday I picked up a decent Gsa toner. Then another guy had one up front in a show case. It had some nice red and rainbow colors that I don't usually see on these CC Gsa's.

Well I passed on it only to call the guy on his cell phone at the show this morning and bought it. So now he has to mail it to me. Crazy, but at least he was decent and gave me the same price he quoted me at the show.