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My 2 Cents - 1869 NGCPF65RB - Edited To Pose A Question - What Determines Obverse And Reverse?

WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
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I think these coins are really cool, especially when they are toned. Nice mirrors for an old time proof.
Anyone else care to post an image of one of theirs, proof or otherwise?

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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Now that is a cool coin! I don't have any proof copper, only proof silver without any toning.

    Tom
    Tom

  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin. There are some absolutely gorgeous 2 cent pieces out there in MS & proof at reasonable prices, maybe the perception it has two reverses keeps the prices down?
    Paul <> altered surfaces <> CoinGallery.org
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    not proof but here is some

    image
  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭

    shylock made an interesting statement about this coin having two reverses. True. But what determines the obverse and reverse?
    This question is probably best suited to a new thread but hopefully some enlightened responses will occur here. Hopefully.
  • ursabearursabear Posts: 1,888
    Super cool coin! WOW.

    I guess the obverse is always where "In God We Trust" resides? Of course, with no people or places on the coin, it is a little tough to decide beyond that motto.
  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    Nice try ursabear, I almost had to agree with you until I looked at my Franklin halfs.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    usually the reverse of a coin has the demonination/value of the coin

    sincerely michael
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    To quote Halperin's NCI Grading Guide

    Obverse - The front, or "heads" side of a coin. Usually the side with the date.


    so how about obverse is the front and reverse is the back?
  • ursabearursabear Posts: 1,888
    OOOPS image I forgot about Franklins.

    Well, the date would be a good indicator, except that it is on the reverse on State quarters...

  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    WWW - very pretty coin!

    Here are a couple: 1) NGC MS65RD; 2) PCGS PR65BN

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    about heads or tails.........i've had this discussion with many, many people and have never gotten any kind of satisfactory answer. it seems that whatever hard and fast example is set forth, somewhere there is an exception. heads would seem to be the side with the main portrait, whether that be the symbolic liberty or one of our current circulating presidential representations. i figure heads should be the side with the date but there are certainly enough examples to dispell that notion!!!!image

    this point is similar to discussing which side the portrait faces and why. the two-cent piece solves that with it's symmetrical shield.

    al h.image

    oh, i almost forgot------hi-yah mark!!!!!image
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Here's a MS65RB I got from J. Beymer at Charlotte. The Shield is the obverse I would say. The Denomination and United States Of America are on the reverse, where they should be. Maybe.image

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    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    WWW,

    I've been looking at your coin for the past five minutes and I'm still wiping my chin! DAMN! That thing is beautiful!!!!!!

    Here's a couple of mine:

    PCGS MS62RB:
    image

    PCGS MS64RB:
    image

    The 1871 in my sig link is a PCGS MS63RB.

    BTW, the motto side is the obverse. How do I know? Because I gave up trying to be sure and just decided that it was.image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    Nice coins, everyone. And thank you for the replies to my question and the compliments.
    Anyone care to guess from whom I bought my 2 center from? Hint: He is a fellow board member.
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,549 ✭✭✭
    Coinguy1? Anaconda?
    National Register Of Big Trees

    We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    the snake has 2 centers? that's my guess
  • KAJ1KAJ1 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭
    WWW , that coin rocks !!!!

    They are all very nice.
    I need to get one.


    Kevin
  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    A: Another gem from Anaconda.
  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭

    And here is the image that the Anaconda captured of the same coin.

    image

    He did an OK job, I guess. image

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