Outsnipped on my blue morgan

relayer · March 22, 2003 10:57AM

My max bid was $500 and it sold for $501

gsaguy · March 22, 2003 10:59AM

Relayer,

You may have gotten lucky. This seller's scans are often enhanced beyond belief so perhaps the coin looks nothing like it was depicted in the auction. Of course, even a solid black Morgan can be a pretty cool coin.

GSAGUY

Russ · March 22, 2003 11:02AM

I was looking at that auction earlier today and wondering how the hell a coin could tone that way. Just one more pound of confusion piled on the ton or so already occupying my brain.

Russ, NCNE

FC57Coins · March 22, 2003 11:03AM

Relayer - I bought a coin from bondman and had a similar experience as described by Bryan.

Frank

jbsteven · March 22, 2003 11:08AM

I have bought one coin from bondman21 and can say they are GREATLY enhanced, you did yourself a favor.

heck check out my toned dollars, they are much better than his!

relayer · March 22, 2003 11:09AM

I'm probably more relieved than mad then I guess.

I bid on it a few days ago but looking at the picture now, I see the blue color has left the coin between 11:00 and 3:00 and creeped out on to the insert?

It would be a nice coin if it really looked like that.

mbbiker · March 22, 2003 11:11AM

I to was looking at this earlier today wondering how only one side would tone this much

braddick · March 22, 2003 11:19AM

The Ghosting of the stars and date though tell me it's real. He tweeks his scans (less now than a few weeks ago- he must have caught on he was loosing bids because of it) but blue is blue is blue.
I don't know how much it could be tweeked and not be blue.

dabugler · March 22, 2003 11:21AM

"I'm so blue"

Best sung with an Elvis dialect

eagle7 · March 22, 2003 11:23AM

Ive had great success lately buying PCGS and NGC toned coins on Ebay and paying 130.00 or less. I never bid on that guy's auctions. Soon as I see that name I hit the stop button and go my way!

gsaguy · March 22, 2003 11:23AM

Braddick,

Is suspect the toning is natural....but I also suspect the coin may look different in person.....all based on experience. Long ago I bought a few coins from him and didn't even recognize the pieces when they arrived....they looked NOTHING like the scans.

This one could be almost black, which as I say, can still be a cool looking coin.

GSAGUY

braddick · March 22, 2003 11:32AM

One thing I've noticed about BondMan (and to be objective: I've not purchased a coin through him) and in reading his auctions is, although the coins (mostly Morgans, right?) are super enhanced, usually his coin descriptions and especially his auction Banners, are somewhat accurate.
He's screaming "blue, blue, blue..." on this one.
Somehow, if the coin is black I don't even think he'd have the balls to misrepresent the coin so blantantly. Could be wrong- could be right.

dabugler · March 22, 2003 11:35AM

"Blue Buy-You"

jd4science · March 22, 2003 3:15PM

I see where you can see the ghoting, but the ghosting is absolutely white, slightly odd...

K6AZ · March 22, 2003 3:23PM

It is interesting that just now I saw this post. I brought back 18 of the 19 toned Morgans I took to Charlotte with me. While dealers were asking premiums for toned coins, they sure weren't paying them. I have a NGC MS64 1901-O with a virtually total blue reverse. If that sounds like something you would be interested in, PM me. And I will sell it for about a quarter of what that one did with an enhanced scan.

Newkid · March 23, 2003 1:05AM

Is this coin certified?

BAJJERFAN · March 23, 2003 1:14AM

As the old song says "blue on blue; heartache on heartache" LucyBop are my correct on this?

MrLee · March 23, 2003 1:31AM

<< <i>Is this coin certified? >>

It appears that it is but the fact that the slab has all but disappeared from the picture, would lead me to believe the scan was tweeked and by quite a bit.

satootoko · March 23, 2003 2:35AM

<< <i>My max bid was $500 and it sold for $501 >>

Don't forget - second bidder sets the price at one increment over his/her bid.

If you had waited to snipe the auction at the last second the winner's snipe might have been based on the next bid, and you might have won.

Then again, maybe he bid his own true max, and since it was over your bid it won by one increment.

Were you willing to pay more

If not, you were beaten fair and square by someone who wanted it more.

If so, you should have bid your max!

Edited because I accidentally pulled the trigger too soon!

mbbiker · March 23, 2003 12:35PM

If you still want a blue morgan here is one it's a little more than $500 but it's also a 65 instead of a 64. I'm pretty sure this coin will look like the auction photos because the seller has great photography skills.
link

dabugler · March 24, 2003 9:21AM

"BBLLUUEEOOAATTSS"

Sorry

I just blew oats.

relayer · April 2, 2003 2:48AM

I got an email from the seller that the coin has been returned and is once again available for sale

Methinks the coin doesn't quite look like the picture

billiardmaster · April 2, 2003 3:07AM

you were lucky. An ms64 for $500 is not a good deal, period. I have lot of PCGS 65's nicer that no dealer has been willing to pay anything
for. I could make coins like that all night if I wanted. I don't.
Rusty

RotatedRainbows · April 2, 2003 3:28AM

got an email from the seller that the coin has been returned and is once again available for sale

Now why does that not surprise me!!

Morganluver · April 2, 2003 4:29AM

This coin has actually been sold and returned and relisted at least three times so far and I suspect you may see it again in the near future. I believe it is much darker than the already dark scan you see. It's a real shame that he keeps trying to enhance his pics.

paigowjohnny · April 2, 2003 6:19AM

I notice he now says in his payment instructions that all raw coin sales are final....dumb

Outsnipped on my blue morgan

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