I agree, this was not handled well. PCGS needs to reinstate Greg ASAP. To ban someone..... then start a "new rules policy" a couple of hours later is not right. Greg helped to make the forum sucessful. I can remember when this site got 3 to 4 new posts a DAY!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
I too have tied a yellow ribbon for Greg, so yes, bring him back with Blue TuTu and scarlet letter S (for 'SCUMBAG' a term he often used that I have not seen for a few days now).
Agree with Adrian - just flip the switch and send Greg an e-mail about expectations. He has clearly had the PCGS scope crosshairs on him for quite some time, but it is only fair to let him try and conform to the new policies.
Tom
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Type collector since 1981 Current focus 1855 date type set
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When I clicked the "I accept" button, I didn't see anything there stating I could only enter If I agree 100% with everything PCGS does (or says). I will respectfully disagree & call it as I see it when I don't like something. *I* am a customer and so are *YOU*.
And as far as the boards being complimentary? I don't know about you, but I pay for my PCGS membership & submissions which fund this board. It's a service that is paid for by customers. Having the message board makes their service much more fun & interesting which helps keep us as PAYING CUSTOMERS.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
I agree completely, Tjennings. It seems that "Big Brother" is everywhere. Folks should just quit whining, and read what they are interersted in, and ignore what they don't agree with. Seems pretty simple to me. Then again, I KNOW my fecal matter doesn't smell like roses, and it seems that there are a lot of people out there who think that theirs does...
I am still not clear if this was a " permanent ban ". Hopefully it is just a " suspension " and GREG will return on " probation ". Greg was rough around the edges, but extremely helpful and knowledgeable. Hope he wants to return, if allowed.
I agree with everyone that wants to bring back Gmarguli. I'd also like to put in my vote to bring Derrick back, as he was unfairly banned awhile ago...
Well people I dont think its gonna happen. The well has been poisened by both sides and the issue seems pretty much closed. All the wishful thinking in the world isnt going to change a damn thing.
Coindaughter, Im afraid this is the new me. I am not a bear, I do not eat jelly donuts and I am a little tougher and meaner then the little bear. Being a peacemaker just dont get it done. So I will revert to the company commander I was.
Greg got what he asked for. He knew the rules, it's up to him to follow them. I've seen many guys like him on other message boards. No mater what you do he will keep pushing that fine line, ruining things for everyone else. he fits into that mold perfectly. he would just keep it up until he was kicked off again. Maybe one chance, but only if he came groveling.
<< <i>Well people I dont think its gonna happen. The well has been poisened by both sides and the issue seems pretty much closed. All the wishful thinking in the world isnt going to change a damn thing. >>
Bear- That definitive statement sounds like it came from someone that has discussed this matter with HRH on the phone. Is that the case??
I was away last weekend and missed what happened to Greg... Greg really is a good guy....we need him around here.. I will try and read what happened and be back later unless someone can give me a 2 minute recap.. Larry
Larry Shapiro Rare Coins - LSRC POB 854 Temecula CA 92593 310-541-7222 office 310-710-2869 cell www.LSRarecoins.com Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26 Baltimore July 14-17 Chicago August 11-15
Mr. Hall tired of all of the PCGS bashing and was probably upset about a post of Mark Salzberg's (about NGC's market leadership, etc.) on the NGC board being placed on the PCGS board. It APPEARS that Greg was booted without warning, for doing the very thing he had consistently done for so very long. I guess David wanted to make an example out of him.
Many PCGS forum members have since migrated to the NGC board (and others) and there has been some derisiveness among former forum buddies, recently.
Thanks for the recap... Greg is kinda like me..we say what is on our mind.. ...right Steve Sometimes it gets me in trouble.. I have supported PCGS from day one,and we need them to stay around.. They do have alot of problems as I see it.. I wanted to take Rick's place and fix them up..but they picked someone else.... oh well.. maybe I will start my own grading company Back top work, Larry
Larry Shapiro Rare Coins - LSRC POB 854 Temecula CA 92593 310-541-7222 office 310-710-2869 cell www.LSRarecoins.com Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26 Baltimore July 14-17 Chicago August 11-15
OK... also starting my own forum soon....for silver dollars and other pre 1964 coins Mark..maybe you can write for my new web page
anyway... I like this place alot and hope Homerun can learn from some of us.. As soon as he upgrades a few of my coins,we will be buddies again Back later,
Homerun Larry
Larry Shapiro Rare Coins - LSRC POB 854 Temecula CA 92593 310-541-7222 office 310-710-2869 cell www.LSRarecoins.com Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26 Baltimore July 14-17 Chicago August 11-15
Comments
I'm not convinced what PCGS did was "wrong" but then again, no one has to categorize banning Greg or anyone else as wrong.
PCGS doesn't have announce anything...just unblock him let's just go on about our lives.
All persons given a pardon will appreciate it and err on the side of being more carefull of what they say.
Forgiveness is totally empowering!
adrian
In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
I love Ike dollars and all other dollar series !!!
I also love Major Circulation Strike Type Sets, clad Washingtons ('65 to '98) and key date coins !!!!!
If ignorance is bliss, shouldn't we have more happy people ??
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Type collector since 1981
Current focus 1855 date type set
<< <i>This message board is compliments of PCGS. When you come here to communicate with other collectors you are not a customer.....you are a guest, they don't charge anything to be able to post here. There was an ageement we all clicked on "I accept" when we signed up to post on this board. Maybe some people need to re-read the terms they agreed to abide by........ >>
When I clicked the "I accept" button, I didn't see anything there stating I could only enter If I agree 100% with everything PCGS does (or says). I will respectfully disagree & call it as I see it when I don't like something. *I* am a customer and so are *YOU*.
And as far as the boards being complimentary? I don't know about you, but I pay for my PCGS membership & submissions which fund this board. It's a service that is paid for by customers. Having the message board makes their service much more fun & interesting which helps keep us as PAYING CUSTOMERS.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
and read what they are interersted in, and ignore what they don't agree with. Seems pretty simple to me.
Then again, I KNOW my fecal matter doesn't smell like roses, and it seems that there are a lot of people
out there who think that theirs does...
"The more I know, the less I understand"
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if I were greg, even if the ban were lifted, I would not return to this forum.
"The more I know, the less I understand"
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Hope he wants to return, if allowed.
They did it in Imperial Rome all the time.
"The more I know, the less I understand"
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Kingdom of Loathing Rocks!
and the issue seems pretty much closed. All the wishful thinking in the world isnt
going to change a damn thing.
Camelot
<< <i>All the wishful thinking in the world isnt going to change a damn thing. >>
I've never seen such language from you, little Bearmeister!
Sadly, I'm afraid he's right.
and I am a little tougher and meaner then the little bear.
Being a peacemaker just dont get it done. So I will revert to the company commander
I was.
Camelot
Damn.
I just love the self-appointed judge-and-jury types. They're so full of compassion and understanding.
PLONK
EVP
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
I can be reached at evillageprowler@gmail.com
<< <i>Well people I dont think its gonna happen. The well has been poisened by both sides
and the issue seems pretty much closed. All the wishful thinking in the world isnt
going to change a damn thing. >>
Bear- That definitive statement sounds like it came from someone that has discussed this matter with HRH on the phone. Is that the case??
Greg really is a good guy....we need him around here..
I will try and read what happened and be back later unless someone can give me a 2 minute recap..
Larry
POB 854
Temecula CA 92593
310-541-7222 office
310-710-2869 cell
www.LSRarecoins.com
Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26
Baltimore July 14-17
Chicago August 11-15
Mr. Hall tired of all of the PCGS bashing and was probably upset about a post of Mark Salzberg's (about NGC's market leadership, etc.) on the NGC board being placed on the PCGS board. It APPEARS that Greg was booted without warning, for doing the very thing he had consistently done for so very long. I guess David wanted to make an example out of him.
Many PCGS forum members have since migrated to the NGC board (and others) and there has been some derisiveness among former forum buddies, recently.
Greg is kinda like me..we say what is on our mind..
...right Steve
Sometimes it gets me in trouble..
I have supported PCGS from day one,and we need them to stay around..
They do have alot of problems as I see it..
I wanted to take Rick's place and fix them up..but they picked someone else....
oh well..
maybe I will start my own grading company
Back top work,
Larry
POB 854
Temecula CA 92593
310-541-7222 office
310-710-2869 cell
www.LSRarecoins.com
Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26
Baltimore July 14-17
Chicago August 11-15
also starting my own forum soon....for silver dollars and other pre 1964 coins
Mark..maybe you can write for my new web page
anyway...
I like this place alot and hope Homerun can learn from some of us..
As soon as he upgrades a few of my coins,we will be buddies again
Back later,
Homerun Larry
POB 854
Temecula CA 92593
310-541-7222 office
310-710-2869 cell
www.LSRarecoins.com
Larry@LSRarecoins.com
PCGS Las Vegas June 24-26
Baltimore July 14-17
Chicago August 11-15
"The more I know, the less I understand"
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