sometimes you can tell with the packs with out the cardboard. What i use to do when I grabbed a pack was rub my finger nail on the side of the pack where the edges of cards are and you would feel like a 5 bumps which would be like 5 base cards. For like a Gu, you would fee a bump then something flat then like one more bump, meaing theres a thick card in there. I use to do that but dont much anymore because I dont by as many packs as I use to. I did that with a TSC hockey pack and I knew somethin was in there and pulled a jersey.
This post is terrible. One person is asking a group how to basically cheat. You should go read a book or something that will expand your mind, instead of learning to cheat. Think of the 8 yr old kid trying to get a card of his favorite player. You ruin his chances simply by being greedy and cheating.
hey go mind ur own business no one asked to put stupid comments about cheating there is no cheating i just want to get some good cards and like u never done it!! plus im only 15 so back off we are no in school or whatever since u probaly think everything is cheating!!
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Plus how is it cheating its no game its a hobby and plus U BUY the dang packso whats so badd about it??? just dont post comments thinking everything is CHEATING cuz u probaly done it in ur life once before!!
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Sounds more immoral then stealing. You would be cheating out everyone else that bought things out of the box, hurting the owners business cause people would think he was doing the searching, and making your collection a tainted one. It is possible though. Bot as accurate though. I think it takes the fun out of it anyway. the fun of cards is buying packs then seeing what you get not seeing what you get then buying it.
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This is why I mostly buy sealed boxes... Some people don't know that their practices at "searching" can also cause damage to the packs/cards I end up buying. Buttmuches
In defense of the card companies (probably my first!), they have come a long way in a few years on this subject! Back in 99 it was as simple as turning over 24 packs on their side and picking out the fat one! It doesn't take a genius to realize that if a game used card has the thickness of 4 cards you can't put it in a pack that has only 3 cards and not expect that to be cherry-picked.
However the fact of the matter is that there are many many collectors out there who search! Usually they are the guys who have been repeatedly screwed by pack buying. Afterall, if you only buy packs chances are you will NEVER break even! These guys know when the shipments come in and they know all the old tricks and they learn the new tricks. Even with all the dummy cards that the companies put out now, I would still say that 95% of game used and a great deal of autographs can still be searched!
Im with dirtmonkey! I only buy sealed boxes now, or if I buy packs they are from a fresh box...heck your odds are tough enough when a box is new, what chance do you have when some creap is feeling away!
It really seems like all the companies are making this a priority, and I would have to say that this is a bigger problem in retail stores rather than hobby (lets not count your crooked hobby dealer), it seems like the big four have all started to put dummy cards in their packs. Playoff and UD are the most effective, however they need make one change to really cement it! Its ironic that topps who recently went with a program to deter conterfeits, actually made it easier for pack searchers. They only need to look at how they did the Archives autos to see what worked! Fleer has their millions of worthless game used cards down to a thin thickness, and even pacific has realized that packaging the insert packs after the others creates pack-feelers signs!
Why not utilize a holder design like topps pristine and put the one good card in that,wether it be game used or autographed? That would make all packs feel the same and eliminate the work done to them by the common crook! Its not the companies are worried about cost anyways! If we are going to spend 150 dollars on a pack, why not inlcude a 30 cent screw down with it??
I think in a few more years this won't be a problem anymore!
<< <i>sometimes you can tell with the packs with out the cardboard. What i use to do when I grabbed a pack was rub my finger nail on the side of the pack where the edges of cards are and you would feel like a 5 bumps which would be like 5 base cards. For like a Gu, you would fee a bump then something flat then like one more bump, meaing theres a thick card in there. I use to do that but dont much anymore because I dont by as many packs as I use to. I did that with a TSC hockey pack and I knew somethin was in there and pulled a jersey. >>
just would like 2 say. noooooooooooooooooo! i just found out by your sig that takeo has left my bengals! my SLU opened is worthless! Screw takeo spikes!
btw, lmao.... This kid prolly gonna buy 3 packs... tryna get 3 jerseys... heheh
sealed packs arent safe either! i bought a UD Encore box, and had 2 packs with only 3 cards (supposed 2 be 5) and they where base cards, no gu! sent it 2 UD! they said they never got it! BS
Not only are my chances reduced to zero, but most of the time thugs that search the packs damage the cards by bending the corners etc., running your finger nail along the edge of the pack will more than likely chip the edges and who ever buys that pack gets basically trash. I confront the people I see searching and report them to the store manager, at one of the Wal-Marts near me, I discussed this problem with the store manager and he has treated it like opening the product, if you get caught you will be required to by them. At least two kids have been banned from that Wal-Mart for searching(Damaging Products).
NAS: If you send anything to anyone without certifing or registering it, might as well not have sent it, this is a tiresome subject and if it has happened to you, YOU have victimized yourself, no one else to blame.
try this one out...theres a local card collector who buys a box of a product and weights each pack...feels them....and get a mental not as to how "heavy" the packs are that have the good stuff....then he goes to retail boxes and rips them to shreads....he did it in front of me and a hobby shop owner....it was amazing...we opened a brand new box....shifted the packs and then let him go thru them in the normal manner....he literally blew right thru the box and pulled every gu and auto in the box!!!!...he doesnt do it all the time...only when he can win a bet...he is now banned from touching packs in hobby stored around here...lol
anyone that feels packs to get the gu'd should be shot.....or even better...they should be made to explain their actions to all the kids that spend their hard earned money buying the other packs....may they be damned to a hell full of commons....just my opinion...dave in az
<< <i>Not only are my chances reduced to zero, but most of the time thugs that search the packs damage the cards by bending the corners etc., running your finger nail along the edge of the pack will more than likely chip the edges and who ever buys that pack gets basically trash. I confront the people I see searching and report them to the store manager, at one of the Wal-Marts near me, I discussed this problem with the store manager and he has treated it like opening the product, if you get caught you will be required to by them. At least two kids have been banned from that Wal-Mart for searching(Damaging Products).
NAS: If you send anything to anyone without certifing or registering it, might as well not have sent it, this is a tiresome subject and if it has happened to you, YOU have victimized yourself, no one else to blame. >>
WHata you mean??? I sent it to them with a nice bubble envelope with my empty packs to UD, like they told me 2... with my proof of purchase... and they said that they never recieved it... it was so blah...
BBT: Why is there no signature on that kobe card in your sig??? LOL
maybe he signed it in white sharpie eh? newest hit , the "Clear" Signature...so clear its not even there! whoaaaaaaaaa lol What would be cool is if the numbers in the back, contained a jersey swatch 2! lo
<< <i>This post is terrible. One person is asking a group how to basically cheat. You should go read a book or something that will expand your mind, instead of learning to cheat. Think of the 8 yr old kid trying to get a card of his favorite player. You ruin his chances simply by being greedy and cheating. >>
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It doesn't matter if you're 15 or 55, there's no way to justify this.
I was debating as to whether to leave this thread up as it has no value to the board.
It's nice to see that several are offended by this practice.
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this subject! Back in 99 it was as simple as turning over 24 packs on their side and picking out the
fat one! It doesn't take a genius to realize that if a game used card has the thickness of 4 cards
you can't put it in a pack that has only 3 cards and not expect that to be cherry-picked.
However the fact of the matter is that there are many many collectors out there who search!
Usually they are the guys who have been repeatedly screwed by pack buying. Afterall, if you
only buy packs chances are you will NEVER break even! These guys know when the shipments
come in and they know all the old tricks and they learn the new tricks. Even with all the
dummy cards that the companies put out now, I would still say that 95% of game used and
a great deal of autographs can still be searched!
Im with dirtmonkey! I only buy sealed boxes now, or if I buy packs they are from a fresh box...heck
your odds are tough enough when a box is new, what chance do you have when some creap
is feeling away!
It really seems like all the companies are making this a priority, and I would have to say that this
is a bigger problem in retail stores rather than hobby (lets not count your crooked hobby dealer),
it seems like the big four have all started to put dummy cards in their packs. Playoff and UD
are the most effective, however they need make one change to really cement it! Its ironic that
topps who recently went with a program to deter conterfeits, actually made it easier for
pack searchers. They only need to look at how they did the Archives autos to see what worked!
Fleer has their millions of worthless game used cards down to a thin thickness, and even pacific
has realized that packaging the insert packs after the others creates pack-feelers signs!
Why not utilize a holder design like topps pristine and put the one good card in that,wether it
be game used or autographed? That would make all packs feel the same and eliminate the
work done to them by the common crook! Its not the companies are worried about
cost anyways! If we are going to spend 150 dollars on a pack, why not inlcude a 30 cent
screw down with it??
I think in a few more years this won't be a problem anymore!
Kevin
<< <i>sometimes you can tell with the packs with out the cardboard. What i use to do when I grabbed a pack was rub my finger nail on the side of the pack where the edges of cards are and you would feel like a 5 bumps which would be like 5 base cards. For like a Gu, you would fee a bump then something flat then like one more bump, meaing theres a thick card in there. I use to do that but dont much anymore because I dont by as many packs as I use to. I did that with a TSC hockey pack and I knew somethin was in there and pulled a jersey. >>
just would like 2 say. noooooooooooooooooo!
i just found out by your sig that takeo has left my bengals! my SLU opened is worthless! Screw takeo spikes!
btw, lmao....
This kid prolly gonna buy 3 packs... tryna get 3 jerseys... heheh
and they where base cards, no gu! sent it 2 UD! they said they never got it! BS
I confront the people I see searching and report them to the store manager, at one of the Wal-Marts near me, I discussed this problem with the store manager and he has treated it like opening the product, if you get caught you will be required to by them. At least two kids have been banned from that Wal-Mart for searching(Damaging Products).
NAS:
If you send anything to anyone without certifing or registering it, might as well not have sent it, this is a tiresome subject and if it has happened to you, YOU have victimized yourself, no one else to blame.
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<< <i>Not only are my chances reduced to zero, but most of the time thugs that search the packs damage the cards by bending the corners etc., running your finger nail along the edge of the pack will more than likely chip the edges and who ever buys that pack gets basically trash.
I confront the people I see searching and report them to the store manager, at one of the Wal-Marts near me, I discussed this problem with the store manager and he has treated it like opening the product, if you get caught you will be required to by them. At least two kids have been banned from that Wal-Mart for searching(Damaging Products).
NAS:
If you send anything to anyone without certifing or registering it, might as well not have sent it, this is a tiresome subject and if it has happened to you, YOU have victimized yourself, no one else to blame. >>
WHata you mean??? I sent it to them with a nice bubble envelope with my empty packs to UD, like they told me 2... with my proof of purchase... and they said that they never recieved it... it was so blah...
BBT:
Why is there no signature on that kobe card in your sig??? LOL
What would be cool is if the numbers in the back, contained a jersey swatch 2! lo
Just copy your .40 Delivery Confirmation Receipt and email it to them....
<< <i>This post is terrible. One person is asking a group how to basically cheat. You should go read a book or something that will expand your mind, instead of learning to cheat. Think of the 8 yr old kid trying to get a card of his favorite player. You ruin his chances simply by being greedy and cheating. >>
He is 8 years old