Is this hairlines or die polishing? (Warning: Large scan)

Russ

In looking at this, the lines seem to stop right at the devices, and don't appear on the devices themselves so I'm thinking die polishing. They also seem raised, rather than grooved. What do you guys think?

Russ, NCNE

mdwoods

Nice photo Russ. I would tend to think they are die polish lines. Especially if they seem to be raised.

nwcs

If they are raised, then die polish. It tends to look haphazard so I would say die polish. Looks weakly struck, too. But a pleasing color.

stman

Hi Russ, You might have answered your own question. If the lines are raised.... they are indeed die polish lines. Also, die polish lines can even be on the devices as well.

Question........... I started a thread on grading these quarters and the gray looking areas on the high spots looking like friction or rub. Your image appears to have what I'm concerned about. Can you give some info on your coin?

kranky

They look raised to me, therefore I say die polish.

Russ

<< <i>But a pleasing color. >>



nwcs,

The reverse is even more interesting:





<< <i>I started a thread on grading these quarters and the gray looking areas on the high spots looking like friction or rub. Your image appears to have what I'm concerned about. Can you give some info on your coin? >>



Stman,

I'm just as confused as anyone when it comes to determining what is rub on these. The seller listed this coin as MS67-MS68. Of course, it's not. Even I can see that.

Looking at it very closely, I'm at a loss as to whether that is rub from wear, or just untoned areas from contact with whatever storage medium was used. Personally, I'm inclined to think the coin is AU, but that's basically a WAG.

Russ, NCNE

stman

Thanks Russ, your coin seems to have quite a bit of the areas I spoke of. All through the hair and such. I was kind of meaning a lot less of it. Mainly following the cheekbone and hair above the ear. From what I've learned so far is if it has hits in the face that alone can keep it from the 65 grade. Your coin seems to have quite a few in this area.

dorkkarl

classic die-polish

K S

ClarkOfKent

So.... lemme see if I've got this straight. Die polishing marks are raised, and hairlines are recessed.

What kind of alternate universe have we entered where edgy is good and groovy is bad?????

jom

You'll also notice how the lines all of a sudden STOP at the raised devices in most places. If they were hairlines I'm sure the devices would be hairlined also...

jom

shylock

Russ - from a modern Lincoln (67RD):

ksteelheader

Looks like die polishing to me>..........Ken

coppercoins

I'm not going to say "looks like." It IS die polishing.

coppercoins

<< <i>Russ - from a modern Lincoln (67RD): >>



Shylock...trying to guess the date on your cent. It has to be 1982-1988, and looks like an earlier one versus a later one, so I'm gonna say 1984. Am I close?

dpoole

Great educational thread and classic coin board stuff you guys. Thanks, Russ!

shylock

You got the time frame Coppercoins - 1983.

RGL

Agreed, if they are raised they are die polish lines and theoretically, as mint made, should not affect the technical grade. But, they could affect price ...

DAM

Russ,

Is the reverse what you'd call a Moon Reverse? One half is white and the other side toned. Like the moon, one side always faces the sun?

Russ

Bump in case anybody else, (besides me), is still learning about the difference.

Russ, NCNE

hughesm1

Nice (die polish) example Russ. Have any idea what caused the toning on the reverse? I'm leaning toward cardboard or paper.

Russ

hughesm1,

I know even less about toning than I do about the difference between die polishing and hairlines, (but, I'm learning), so I'm not sure what caused that. While I don't know what caused it, my gut tells me it's the real deal. Looking at the pattern and colors, it just "feels" right.

Russ, NCNE