What do you look for to discover a Roosevelt Dime Full Torch?

Cameo CC · March 11, 2003 10:06PM

What do you say?

Todd

nwcs · March 11, 2003 10:09PM

Right now, I don't worry about it. I like roosies. I have a complete BU (and some monsters) set of silver ones in an old 1959 holder. But I'm not all that concerned with a full torch. I just want the coin to make me want to look at it over and over.

CarlWohlforth · March 11, 2003 10:19PM

This Roosey is NOT full torch:

The lower bands are flat and the mint mark is almost not readable.

agentjim007 · March 11, 2003 10:23PM

I think we should start promoting full penis on the buffalo nickel

agentjim007 · March 11, 2003 10:24PM

Think about it...full horn, full penis, split tail. Should be wrth money like an MS70 modern

Coulport · March 11, 2003 10:33PM

Evidently, the coin can't speak for itself.
It will require a label encased in plastic.

BillJones · March 11, 2003 10:43PM

A few years ago I wrote a satire for Penny Wise, which is the newsletter for the Early American Coppers club. It was an interview with a fictional, less than scrupulous coin dealer named I. M. Cagey.

One of the questions was, “What is going to be the next hot coin?”

Ans: “Full split continents.”

Ques: “Yea, what’s that?”

Ans: “If you find an Ike dollar with the Panama Canal showing between North and South America, you have got one hell of a coin. They will be thousands. Trust me!”

It looks like I was anticipating something and didn’t know it.

People are free to collect whatever they like so long as it's legal to own it, but remember, it's YOUR money.

Cameo CC · March 11, 2003 10:54PM

So is this a Full Torch?

Todd

crito · March 11, 2003 10:57PM

They should just use FS on all series, to indicate Full Strike... I'm going to get FT confused with my set of ACG Full Tail Buffalo Nickels

And why not FL for Full Luster, while you're at it. Perhaps FE, for Fenomenal Eye-Appeal too (takes a little creative spelling on that one

) I can see it now on eBay: <dream sequence on> PCGS 2003 MS70 FS FL FE Roosevelt dime, opening bid $30,0000... and Anaconda is the seller </dream sequence off>

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fully struck examples. Just not sure the designations we already have are being used that way. I probably have one here with a full torch but really weak lettering to one side... so we'll have weakly struck full torches and fully struck no torches (bag mark on it) and the only thing that really changes is the premium on plastic.

CarlWohlforth · March 11, 2003 11:09PM

Todd - we will have to wait for the official definition to know for sure. Comparing your image to a proof coin I can see the reeding on the upper torch is weak and the flame looks weaker. Yours is clearly better struck than mine but it still doesn't compare well to a proof. To be honest I am not sure what to expect from a fully struck mint state Roosey.

Cameo CC · March 11, 2003 11:12PM

CarlWohlforth - Me either. We will have to wait and see.

Todd

Baley · March 11, 2003 11:42PM

I look for full vertical lines in the torch handle, full split top and bottom horizontal bands, full flame details, and full knob and horizontal oval at base of torch. I also like to see full leaf details. the attached coin is close to FT if not quite there, I'm not sure how much tiny marks will affect the designation:

dorkkarl · March 12, 2003 12:09AM

i look for an idiot who gleefully gave too much money to pcgs for a worthless designation.

K S

Baley · March 12, 2003 12:16AM

ok dork, i see you're feeling particularly hostile this morning.

I for one am happy,

for I expect to benefit from the FT designation without paying PCGS or anyone else any money at all! yes, I am loaded up with full torch roosies, which, with good pictures, i expect to be able to sell quite readily without the benefit of any slabbing, and then if the buyers want to send them in and pay grading fees, more power to them!

no one forces anyone to play the registry game.

dorkkarl · March 12, 2003 12:25AM

hostile? you better believe it. & sickened too.

$350 MILLION spent on slabs, & full-torch is what you have to show for it? does that really make you happy?

makes me sick.

K S

dorkkarl · March 12, 2003 12:27AM

playing the registry game isn't the issue for me. the issue is the stupidity of escalating prices that are shutting average collectors, such as myself, out of the market. the $350 MILLION spent on slabs has to come from somewhere. that somewhere is me & you, paying inflated prices for coins.

K S

Bear · March 12, 2003 12:56AM

People thought the defective glue placed on Post It Pads was worthless
because it would not stick permanently.

People though computors would only be of use to at most, 100 institutions.

People thought that the aeroplane while interesting, had no practical uses.

Cars would never replace the good old reliable horse.

Those new fangled pens will never relace the good old goose quill for writing.

LucyBop · March 12, 2003 1:04AM

<< <i>i look for an idiot who gleefully gave too much money to pcgs for a worthless designation. >>

that'll be me.....

Bear · March 12, 2003 1:05AM

Agent Jim - Do we know the meaning of Gross and Disgusting???

DMWJR · March 12, 2003 1:08AM

If you want to sell some FT Roosies, PM me. I'll take the risk!

1956Quarter · March 12, 2003 1:13AM

>>It was an interview with a fictional, less than scrupulous coin dealer named I. M. Cagey. <<

I've heard of this guy!! He has a brother named I. Fleecem.

Be careful, their law firm Dewie, Cheatem & Howe is brutal.

)

dorkkarl · March 12, 2003 1:29AM

<< <i>that'll be me..... >>

no no, lucy, you mean "that'll be the day ay ay , when i die"

K S

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