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Collectors, would you buy a coin in a series you collect because you liked the coin even if you knew

Even if you knew you could not sell it to anyone for at least half what you paid without worrying about the value at all?

Someone braught to my attention that if the right coin comes along i shouldn't hesitate in paying over greysheet ask for the coin if i truely love it.

Off the top of my head i can think of 6 or 7 coins i'd pay premiums for [if i was in a position to do so] but where do you draw the line?

The story of the merchant said that when he found a "pearl of great price he sold all he had to obtain it, but does that apply to coins?

The President claims he didn't lie about taxes for those earning less then $250,000 a year with public mandated health insurance yet his own justice department has said they will use the right of the government to tax when the states appeals go to court.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    indeed:

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  • Boy if you can go thru your collecting life paying no more than grey sheet ask...you're a much better player than I am....
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Perhaps the sheets are wrong. It's happened before.
    There's a coin I was offered by a dealer that was way over the sheets, so I passed. Now I see the same date/grade (different coin) in the upcoming Balto B&M auction already up to the dealer's price from Internet bids. Buyer's know something the sheets don't, sometimes.
  • If you collect like I do....... a lot of "die varieties" in early federal and seated coinage, you learn early on to throw the sheets away......... Sure, you can "cherrypick" a few here and there, but when the seller knows what he has, and especially if he knows you WANT it, remove all sharp objects from pockets, stand away from windows and doors, put your head between your knees and kiss your a** goodbye !!!!!!!!!
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    When a coin approaches 5000 dollars I give a lot of thought how easy or difficult

    the coin will be to sell when the time comes. I dearly love beautiful coins, but there

    are limits imposed ,by how deep your pockets are and how many other demands

    you might have, on your money, for other things in the forseeable future.
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  • If I needed that particular coin to complete a set I was working on I'd have no problem with it.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Greysheet is a big help, unless your into rare coins........
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • Without a doubt....and would be pleased to have the opportunity to do so!
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  • jeffnpcbjeffnpcb Posts: 1,943
    imageYeah, I already did! Paid way over a grand for a PCGS 1963 pr65Cam DDR that is still the only one that is a cam in that tear and type!
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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use several sources for assigning a value. But in the end, I pay what it is worth to me. If the guy is asking 1.5X or even 2X sheet, and there's not a snowball's chance in hell of me recovering, but it's a coin I really love, I buy it.

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • GilbertGilbert Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭
    Even though you mention the "greysheet," I don't think you are necessarily saying would I pay twice the greysheet price. If so, yes maybe.

    But, twice what anyone else is willing to pay; I'd have to give that one some real hard scrutiny, but, off the cuff I'd say, I'd be less inclined to purchase a coin for that kind of premium. Maybe, if it was a fellow collector who hadn't intended on selling, and it took twice the cost to induce him to part with it, but, generally, I think not.
    Gilbert
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Barberlover,

    You are really talking about two situations here. The first concerns a really choice “mainstream” coin for the grade that is really hard to find. The second concerns the more obscure stuff that is hard find, but from one point of view equally hard to sell.

    Many coins in given grades are worth more than the Gray Sheet “bid” and “ask” numbers. Included in this group are coins that are exceptionally nice for the grade. These coins are bought and sold at premiums over the Gray Sheet between dealers.

    Dealers often pay more than Gray Sheet amounts for some coins because the Gray Sheet is just plain wrong. What is on this list? Among the modern coins, the 1917 Type I quarter in “true” MS-63 and 64 trades for over ask. Any of the key date coins including the all the 1909-S cents, the 1916-D Mercury, the 1916 Standing Liberty and the 1932-D and S quarters are all traded for more than bid. Therefore as a collector you will pay more than bid for these coins or you will not own them. The same applies in the current market for most any problem free early US coin.

    Obscure stuff falls into two more categories. The first is die varieties. The biggest die variety collectors are those who build sets of half cents, large cents, Bust half dollars and VAM varieties. These collectors pay premiums for these coins that are way over Gray Sheet levels. If you are active collector you have a very good idea as to where you can resell these coins so selling them for commensurate amounts usually is not a problem.

    The second category covers tokens and medals. These too have their community of collectors, but the markets are more spotty. Here I have bought items because I really liked them with only a very minor regard about how I would resell them in the end. If it involves amounts up to a few hundred dollars I regard it as part of a pleasurable pastime. If it gets into the thousands, which it has happened a couple of times for me, I’ll think twice about it. A very rare presidential campaign medalet for James K. Polk comes immediately to mind….
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  • ccrdragonccrdragon Posts: 2,697
    If I had the money (or could get a good price on one of my kids imageimage ) I would not hesitate to get the coin!
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  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    Sure, I've done it many times. I don't give a hang what the coins could resell for.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    I've purchased too many things that I couldn't get half the purchase price for. If I extended this bad trait to coins, I'd be bankrupt pretty quickly! The answer is no. Now that I've been in the industry for a while, I purchase coins that I really like first and foremost and that can hold some value secondmost. I do not invest in coins (I no longer speculate), but I try to purchase wisely so that I can resell them at any time.

    Speaking of which, after the ANA show, I'm going into selling mode. I'm going to sell off a lot of the coins I don't want to keep any longer. These will be the last set of coins I'll accept less than near full value for.
  • I would only if it were cheap. I can't afford to spend a few thou on a coin if I could only sell it for half later. However I could spend $20 on a $5 Jefferson if I liked it enough.
  • guilty!
  • smprfismprfi Posts: 874
    Sure I would and have.Wasn't even a MS coin either.

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