Are these Kennedy halves real or AT?

Russ

I just got these in today. I sure hope I didn't get screwed. What do you guys think?

Russ, NCNE

Bear

I feel very uneasy about the top coin, the colors are wrong and there are changes in color

that are rather abrupt and the margin of the color change too well defined and sharp.

As for the bottom coin, Im not sure , could be OK. Bear

KlectorKid

Top is AT bottom looks almost like endroll toning.

FrattLaw

I'm betting AT!

Michael

stman

<< <i>I sure hope I didn't get screwed. >>



But did you get a kiss first? I really feel at least the top coin is a bad coin. Color looks splotchy and abrupt.
Hope this isn't a trick post. But even if it is I would stand behind my opinion.

Edit to add: even the shades of colors on the top coin don't look natural, I know you like us to explain our opinion on these.

mbbiker

I think they are both 100% real

rainbowroosie

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

tsacch

AT says me

jbsteven

did you get a kiss with that?

buuwwwhhaaa

get tonekillers opinion

DCAMFranklin

Is that top coin still warm to the touch? Better use pot holders to handle that baby. Check for cookie dough on the edges.

Never seen one like that 2nd coin.

dragon

Russ, If those are exactly what the coins look like in person, I would say that they are both not naturally toned.

dragon

intocoins

Amazing what a lighter a mashed potato and a book of matches will do....

relayer

Looks like you dipped the top one in sulpher and put the bottom one on your heater.

rainbowroosie

Would ACG slab the top one??

NumisEd

Are these Kennedy halves real or AT?

Is that a rhetorical question?

sinin1

Those are beautiful Russ, what do they smell like?

as long as you didn't spend that much on them, you are okay - heck, melt them down and sell the silver content (it looks like someone already started melting them)

Is this a trick question like mbbikers? Is it now Doc Russ?

If you don't know, good coins for Frattlaws AT website group.

misterR

I've found Ikes and Kennedys toned like the first one. The heat and humidity down here in the south does that. PCGS doesn't like them though and they come back as AT. The second one looks very unnatural to me.

TomB

I'm pretty certain Russ knows the answer for both of these coins, what's the motivation for the thread?

airplanenut

THe blue spots on the first make me confident to think it's AT... the second one could be AT, but could be real depending on how it was stored- I really like it regardless!

Jeremy

NumisEd

Notice that they are the most common of common Kennedy halves. I would bet that Russ just got his "do it yourself AT kit" from ebay and is practicing on cheap coins before he applies AT to less-cheap 1964 Kennedy halves. Keep trying........you'll get better.

DanC

ahhh.... no. I saw them come in the package today. Nice try.

Dog97

Clearly heat treated. Look at the top JFK, you can see the untoned spot where they held it with a pair of pliers.

DCAMFranklin

<< <i>I'm pretty certain Russ knows the answer for both of these coins, what's the motivation for the thread? >>




Definitely TomB!

Shocker

I'll say both are AT... not because I know what I'm talking about, but because it seems that every AT coin is some kind of common date.
Funny thing about AT. A few days ago, my wife had some chicken in the oven and I said "what the heck", let's throw a couple of coins in there. So I threw in a 2000 cent and a 1998 quarter out of pocket change. The quarter got dark and rainbow toned and the cent came out bright like the outer layer melted off. My 7 year old dauther thought that the oven turned the penny into gold. Kind of ironic, since there are a few sellers on eBay that have ovens that really do turn common coins into "gold."

prooflike

I think they are both AT, I'd bag 'em.

Russ

Of course they're AT'd, even I could figure these out. I got a group of seven of these in from a new eBay coin doctor.



<< <i>If you don't know, good coins for Frattlaws AT website group. >>



Sinin1,

That's why I grabbed then, to donate to Michael's project. I picked the two most blatant of the batch to post here; the rest are a bit more subtle. I figure if he can't use them as submission material, he can spend them on fees.

Russ, NCNE

asnooker

Very interesting. I remember someone on this forum was experimenting with toning coins by placing them in different places around the house. Anybody remember who that was? I wonder how the experiment turned out. It blurs the line between AT & Natural becuse it was all dependent on how and where the coins were stored. If you remember who it was, please let me know. Thank You.

Baley

in general, you can look at a coin and think to yourself, "just how did this coin get to lookin like this?"

if you know anything about coins, it's pretty easy to determine just how much someone "helped the process along", how long it took, and/or how good they were at it. get it, "AT" it? heh.,

NumisEd

Russ, what kind of feedback did you leave for the good doctor? Something like "fast shipper of high quality, artifically toned crap"???

Russ

Eddie,

I was thinking about something like "Really pretty colors! How did you make these?"

Russ, NCNE

Steve27

I think you should send the top one to me, it matches my AT commemorative.

Baley

steve, i dont care what or how, that's a very cool looking constitution dollar!

Shocker

Is it at all possible that artificial toning could become an "art form"? Maybe kind of like hobo nicks?