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tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
I believe in PCGS - or at least I believe in what it has been in the past and what it could be again. I will pay a 20% premium over today's market close to purchase 50.01% of CLCT stock. Any takers?

I will pay a 50% discount to today's close for any less than 50.01% You figure out the difference.

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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Now that would be one way to get a fair shake on the 1885 Trade Dollar. Unfortunately I don't have a tad over 50% of their stock.

    Tom
    Tom

  • BustmanBustman Posts: 1,911
    TDN,
    But then you would have to give up your share of Legend. We can't have any conflicts of interest here!image
  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭
    Is that to be considered a tender offer?
  • You're forcing CU to issue a rare press release. I imagine it'll say "not for sale."
    redhott
  • TDN makes a valid point.

    Even if you throw all the other universes in the trash, PCGS and Bowers are worth more than the price of the stock.

    Assuming, of course, that they can get a few problems behind them.......image
  • ANACONDAANACONDA Posts: 4,692
    Wow! What is that in dollar terms?
  • The price of a next day slabbing....image

    Pennies make dollars, and dollars make slabs!

    ....inflation must be kicking in again this dollar says spend by Dec. 31 2004!

    Erik
  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭✭
    TDN,

    Who are the 10% or more shareholders?
    Collecting since 1976.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow! What is that in dollar terms? >>



    50% of CLCT at today's close would run $7.1 million.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615
    HALL, DAVID G.: Declared Holdings - 1,715,100 shares Direct

    David Hall, 55 Pres, Director FY2002 Pay $300K

  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow! What is that in dollar terms? >>



    50% of CLCT at today's close would run $7.1 million. >>




    Just a couple years' pay for one of those car crash lawyers. image
  • you might not need even 50%
    Bill Gates only owns 20 something % of microsoft
    Tim
    LOOKING FOR 1931-s merc that is nice for the grade and fb
  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭
    Geees!! Has anybody checked out the amount of insider selling on this stock????? image
  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭✭
    TDN,

    WOWWWWW!

    Are you serious? A friendly takeover offer of $7 million instigated on a posting forum. That's a first.
    I'm sure a few of the larger shareholders would sell...they get liquid. What's your restructuring plan? Have you been thinking of this for a while?


    Seth
    Collecting since 1976.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this legal???

    (If so, TDN, I'd be glad to take a piece of your action!)
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • TDN - put me down for a piece. Oh, and BTW, I'd like to get a few of my Lincoln's upgraded before we put all the new procedures in place.image
  • BustmanBustman Posts: 1,911


    Honestly, I can't see Legend ever being able to submit to PCGS again. I guess that's the price you pay for standing on principle. When it's all said and done, I hope collectors remember the risk that Laura took. For very little benefit to herself - mostly to those who won't stand with her. image >>



    She will be able to submit again, someday. But your absolutely right, I hope everyone knows what it took for her to do that.
    Coinguy, maybe you should give Laura YOUR pcgs#!image
  • DCAMFranklinDCAMFranklin Posts: 2,862 ✭✭


    << <i>HALL, DAVID G.: Declared Holdings - 1,715,100 shares Direct

    David Hall, 55 Pres, Director FY2002 Pay $300K >>




    Van Simmons owns another 475,020 shares. David Q. Bowers owns another 243,608 (not so friendly hands). Institutions & Mutual Funds own another 780,248. David gifted 216,650 shares back in 11/99 and another 4,900 on 12/31/02. I would assume those shares are in pretty "friendly" hands, even if they are in a trust. With a total of 6,130,000 shares outstanding, control is pretty difficult.

    Heck TDN, those institutions & mutual funds are so deeply bagged in this stock, they would probably jump on a 20% premium!



  • do we want it to go up or down tomorrow???
    redhott
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The point I was trying to make is that PCGS is a very good company and worth more than a pretty penny. If this offer is illegal or in bad taste, I very much regret so and withdraw it appropriately!


  • << <i>Honestly, I can't see Legend ever being able to submit to PCGS again. I guess that's the price you pay for standing on principle. When it's all said and done, I hope collectors remember the risk that Laura took. For very little benefit to herself - mostly to those who won't stand with her. image >>



    If that statement is the way things really work, then PCGS has more problems than just being too strict.
    Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tradedollar (not so nuts):

    I'm sorry, I like what was done with the name on another thread... All I can say is... stranger things have happened in the business world and we'll just leave it at that.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • littlewicherlittlewicher Posts: 1,822 ✭✭
    Buy half the stock and just appoint yourself as CEO. Then we can get back to consistent grading.


    For some life lasts a short while, but the memories it holds last forever.
    -Laura Swenson

    In memory of BL, SM, and KG. 16 and forever young, rest in peace.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Actually TDN I think it would be a great purchase for someone, PCGS i.e. It has a lot going for it. I can only think of one thing that they lack, management vision.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    If you buy it, I'll be the first to apply for a job as a systems programmer and web developer! image Can we say .NET everyone?!?! image I've even thought of a asset management system to control the flow of submissions in a grading company to maximize throughput and minimize turnaround time. In theory, it could have a significant impact on the process.

    Neil
  • Someone there had the vision to do their IPO in Nov. of '99 at $24.00 per share (today it's $2.31) and there's still enough of that cash on the books to carry them quite awhile yet. If the stock keeps dropping, they'll be able to use just a percentage of their cash to buy out all the non-insiders.
    redhott
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just one quick question and I'm outta here.

    Which has a higher market cap? CLCT or ten rolls of PROOF 70 1963 PENNIES???

    (Spare the calculator. It's close, but the pennies win!)
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.

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