Beautiful CoLoRs on circulated bust halves!
jadecoin
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Howdy! We had a couple inquiries about colorful, toned original bust halves. Here is a small sampling! Sorry that the images are not that great, but we use a cheap old scanner. Still learning how to use a digital camera! Not a single one of these coins is mint-state, yet I think you'll be impressed by the color!
First up, we have a vibrant 1808 Capped Bust half that grades AU-55. It has what I call "vertical color", in that the rainbows on both sides stand out practically in 3-D, if you look at the coin in person.
Second, here is an 1818 Capped Bust half, again grading AU-55, that has pearlescent sea-green toning framing both sides. Plenty of cartwheels on this beauty!
Next up, an incredibly beautiful 1818/7 Capped Bust half, again with verticial color on both sides. The obverse is extraordinary in hand. Because of the strong mint luster, the obverse rainbow spins about like a merry-go-round. I really can't explain it without you seeing the coin in person, but this coin is astounding. And it grades only AU-50!
Finally, check out the delightful halo effect on this 1820/19 Capped Bust half. Only the obverse has color on this example, but I don't think you could paint it more perfectly! It's the perfect frame for Ms. Liberty!
OK, this one's interesting. An 1814 Capped Bust half that my partner bought. I thought it was AT, he thinks not. ANACS gave a verbal opinion that the color was good, and the coin would slab at XF/AU. See what you think!
Finally, I hope you can tell that this is a rare proof-like bust half, and it has gorgeous toning on both sides. It is an 1820 Capped Bust half that grades just AU-50. It if it were UNC, it would be a very expensive coin! You can just tell that even with ten points of wear, this coin had a cameo effect when it was struck.
So, the moral of the story is that you don't have to have MS-67 monster coins to get attractive toning! (Although I sure wouldn't mind!) Hope you liked them!!
- jadecoins
First up, we have a vibrant 1808 Capped Bust half that grades AU-55. It has what I call "vertical color", in that the rainbows on both sides stand out practically in 3-D, if you look at the coin in person.
Second, here is an 1818 Capped Bust half, again grading AU-55, that has pearlescent sea-green toning framing both sides. Plenty of cartwheels on this beauty!
Next up, an incredibly beautiful 1818/7 Capped Bust half, again with verticial color on both sides. The obverse is extraordinary in hand. Because of the strong mint luster, the obverse rainbow spins about like a merry-go-round. I really can't explain it without you seeing the coin in person, but this coin is astounding. And it grades only AU-50!
Finally, check out the delightful halo effect on this 1820/19 Capped Bust half. Only the obverse has color on this example, but I don't think you could paint it more perfectly! It's the perfect frame for Ms. Liberty!
OK, this one's interesting. An 1814 Capped Bust half that my partner bought. I thought it was AT, he thinks not. ANACS gave a verbal opinion that the color was good, and the coin would slab at XF/AU. See what you think!
Finally, I hope you can tell that this is a rare proof-like bust half, and it has gorgeous toning on both sides. It is an 1820 Capped Bust half that grades just AU-50. It if it were UNC, it would be a very expensive coin! You can just tell that even with ten points of wear, this coin had a cameo effect when it was struck.
So, the moral of the story is that you don't have to have MS-67 monster coins to get attractive toning! (Although I sure wouldn't mind!) Hope you liked them!!
- jadecoins
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Thaks for the thoughts and images.
K S
K S
Nice coins. Did they come out of the same collection?
How much for the 1814? Sweet coin!!
these coins are for sale?? what are they doing here!?
I like the 1814 too. Heck I like all of them. Too bad you guys won't be in baltimore in March.
Do you guys still do all the colonials and stuff like that too???
Well over a year ago, I had the great privilege of purchasing a tiny part of an ancient collection housed in old coin boards. Literally with trembling hands, I plucked out six similarly-toned bust halves, two of which you see here (1818/7, 1820/19). The four brethren sold quickly, as you might expect; Anthony Terranova was the purchaser of the finest one. The others I linked to here are from a scattering of collections. We've bought and sold a whole lot of similarly toned halves, but the six in this particular collection were some of the most attractive i'd seen. They cost me A LOT, too! Way over retail.
I love colorful bust halves, and for some reason, I prefer coins that are high-grade circulateds over unc's. Actually, I love bust halves in general! Anybody's welcome to check them out on our website anytime, and it doesn't cost you a cent. Best of all, check them out next time you're at a show - we do most of the major shows within a reasonable driving distance of Chicagoland.
Thanks a lot for your questions!
- jadecoins
<< <i>"halo effect"...cool term. Did you make that up? I have not been around that long but i don't remember seeing that phrase used before. >>
Oh, I,m quite familiar with that term,
<< <i>In a lot of instances, I really like the circulated because the marks don't flash and rob your attention. >>
that and you don't have to worry about fingerprints!
The "halo effect" is also used to describe some DMPLs(typically CCs) when the frost on the devices has crept over into the mirrored fields creating the "halo" around the devices. I've got a few of these including an 81-CC ANACS 65 UDM. Premiums are generally in order for this effect.
This is Dennis (my partner, James, started this thread). We will be in Baltimore, but we will not have a table. We will try to have a table at the next Baltimore show, but the March show bourse is sold out, at least that's what I was told.
Regarding the colonials, "yes", we are still very active in dealing with colonials and early Federal coinage. Since that last time we met, we have actually increased our stock of colonials. Thanks for asking. If you are going to the ANA in Charlotte, please stop by and let's chat. If not, then we will catch you (and any other forum members) down the road at future shows, like Cleveland, Chicago, Indianapolis or St. Louis.
when it can be applied , of course. By the way, REAL NICE coins!
Brian
I'm going to expand it when I have more time.
Thanks!
- jadecoins
In Puskin's post below he sums up my feelings. I am concerned that we have a double standard going on the forum. If threads can be posted by a dealer that really amount to exposing his inventory--at no expense--to a large target audience such as this forum, then it should either be acceptable for all to do it, or for none to do it.
My question orginially was what if all the dealers associated with the forum started threads showing off their inventory on a regular basis? Is this a good thing? Is it what people want the forum to be?
If it is, and I have read a lot of sentiment that maybe that is what people want, or at least they don't much care one way or the other... then so be it. I just want to know. Because what I perceive as a double standard is bothersome to me.
If a thread such as this one (and I have never dealt with Jadecoin, and have nothing personal against Jadecoin) is acceptable, then it has to be for all dealers--or private individuals for that matter. And it concerns me. Because I think I have seen an increase in this happening around here already. I think there is a great potential for abusing what is a meeting place for collectors and coin lovers. I know well that a lot of the coins are gorgeous to look at. But, I fear the commercialization of this place. And I know well it isn't my private playground. I just wanted to air my concern.
Carl
I agree with the concerns that Clankeye has expressed. The purpose of the BST (Buy, Sell, Trade coins) forum is to provide an opportunity for everyone, including dealers, a place to view and become aware of items available for sale or trade, and items that members are looking for. PCGS has been kind enough to provide a specific forum for that purpose, and many of us use it and benefit from it. The "opening of the flood gates" as Clankeye has expressed it, was a concern that I expressed on another thread. This forum in the past was rather strict in self-regulating itself, and courteously but strongly letting sellers know that the proper outlet for their wares is BST. It is only a mouse click away; members can go over there and view all the coins and eye candy they want, or go to the vendor's Web and eBay sites. Nobody, to my knowledge, is trying to prohibit the posting of coins, but rather trying to keep this forum from evolving into a billboard farm. But let us not play favorites, if its come one, then it will eventually be, come all. It's your forum ladies and gentlemen - but I hope you will think about the consequences of this forum becoming an extension of BST; of becoming a billboard and neon sign-cluttered highway. I suggest members seriously consider whether they really want - 5 or 10 or 25 vendors peddling their wares over here, especially when a convenient and readily available marketplace is only a click or two away. I would prefer that all coins currently for sale stay at BST, but that is only my opinion.
It's your forum ladies and gentlement - I hope you will all consider the consequences of this forum becoming little more than a commercial strip mall.
Thank you for your attention.
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Here's something to consider. We sell almost exclusively raw coins. Most of the collectors here collect certified coins. Really, this forum would be a poor target audience for our inventory!
I assure you guys that my sole purpose really was just to expose circulated early material with beautifully toned colors! Usually, what is shown here are high-grade examples, and I thought it'd be neat to show what else is available.
Thanks a lot, and sorry if anyone misinterpreted our objective!
- jadecoins
I see no problem with your thread. This is the first time I have seen you post at all.
The bust material is excellent eye candy and I don't interpret it as commerce necessarily. I think its a good visual thread. I see no problem with dealers posting coins from their inventory, particullarly if there is an educational aspect, in this case, the aspect is visual, and I don't mind, as long as it is not abused.
These are very nice coins. I don't believe your intent was commercial.
Brian.
Rotated Rainbows, that image of your half dollar has one MONSTER bold overdate. Very nice! Thank you for the photo.
matteproof
I think that if a dealer posts an image of a coin that is "special" (and please feel free to use your common sense in defining that), then it doesn't bother me.
The posting of the image should serve a purpose other than just exposing the dealer's inventory to the members.
I think these bust halves were special. Not mind blowers but cool enough to be posted.
If dealers start posting images of coins that are less than special, then i think we should .......gently encourage them not to.
Just my personal opinion.
I think the kinder we are to each other, the more likely it is that interesting people are going to stay and be a part of the fun.
Having Julian Leidman, David Hall, Bruce (Tradedollarman), Laura, Greg Bingham, Mark Feld, the two Bryans and many, many other cool and interesting people isn't something we should take for granted. These people are not going to hang out with us if we are harsh with each other ...or if this place is like a flea market or garage sale.
adrian(hey, at least i'm trying)
<< <i>Man you guys need to chill. >>
Ah, the standard "you guys need to chill" coin forum response. If people can't voice a concern around here in a reasonable way, then so be it.
If it is the opinion of the majority that all is fair on the boards then so be that also. I won't lose any sleep over it.
Carl
Man, WHAT AN OCEAN OF CRAP!
I am never going over there again.
Sorry, dudes. That is no place to sell real coins. That is a place to sell carefully selected pieces from your pocket change.
I will be very, very careful about what pics i post to this forum from now on, just please, don't make me go over there.
adrian
Brian.
Obscurum per obscurius
Come on people this thread is nothing to lose your head over is it???
I am jesting a bit, but in reality this type of rule would be beneficial. If you don't like classics, then you simple do not click on that thread. If you like modern, bullion-type coins or dead cats, then you would like on the threads with the title forewarning you of the subject matter.
Just a thought.
Can we please quit griping about people posting pictures of coins. If you don't like it or don't approve of it, fine, that is your opinion (which is clearly in the minority) We are all well aware of how some of you dislike this so we don't need the constant refreshing on every damn thread with a picture of something that happens to be for sale but yet there is no "plug" or reference to that in any way. That's all for my rant tonite! haven't had my supper.
If you and Pushkin don't like looking at real coins then do not click on this thread or Anaconda's threads anymore. Go and click on Russ' threads. Of course Russ does have some very nice 2 cent pieces, so I can't be too critical.
Anaconda: Just noticed the term "halo effect" used by Rare Coins of New Hampshire in one of their recent ads. Guess I did not "coin" the phrase! Also, I for one love to see your posts with stunning 'special' coins, even if they get misconstrued as advertising. In fact, I think the best part of this forum IS the images of beautiful coins, whether for sale or not!!
AgentJim007: Please stop by our table at Countryside or Itasca in the next couple of weeks. Ditto all other forum members, whether you think jadecoins is evil or not.
MatteProof: We grade the 1820/19 at AU-55, not AU-58, but really, grades don't matter much on coins like this! It's a trivial distinction when the eye-appeal is what's key.
Clankeye: Comments noted and appreciated!
ShirohNiichan: The new website is far from complete, and the links you mention will be put back, after I get time to reformat them. I couldn't possibly prove it, but to my knowledge, every single coin I have linked in this thread is undoctored. Where we believe a coin to be doctored, it is spelled out in the coin's description on our website. That includes "worked-over" coins.
RotatedRainbows: Is your 1817/3 for sale?!?! That overdate is very tough to find on nice examples. I like yours better than the one we have in stock right now!
NumisEd: Interesting suggestion, as far as how to title threads with images of coins for sale. As I mentioned, the coins I linked are technically for sale, but that was not the motivation for showing them.
DarkTone: After we sell a coin, the image is removed from our server and stored off-line. I guess it's possible, but would be inconvenient, to link to sold coins, as you'd end up with dead links very shortly. Any other suggestions? Are there seriously 9028 active forum members?!?! It seems like there's only a couple hundred or so!
Thanks for the great points and all the PM's! Enjoyed looking at everyone else's cOlOrFuL coins!!
- jadecoins
No, this is one of the pieces I would never sell as you mentioned it very hard to find problem free. That piece is also the tougher Prime variety without the die crack and all the die rust lumps visible, it also goes well with my other 17/13 which is the later die state 101a.