need expert help on the no S proof sets from the mint

michael

hi there i got asked by a friend about the no s proof sets

and since i am absolutely in the dark about them
know nothing at all about or anything minted after 1950!!! never owned a post 1950 coin!
thought i might put it out here

and hope someone with knowledge about them can answer a few questions about them!

the four in question are the
1970 no s dime
1983 no s dime

1971 no s nickel
1990 no s cent

what are the going rates for these sets in their original holders?

what are the approximate m intages?

waht is the demand for these sets currently?

is it better to buy just the single cetrtified ngc/pcgs examples of get an original cased govt proof set?

and do some come deep cameo ? cameo? just regular mirrored proof coin?

any other tohughtrs or comments about these sets??

sincerely michael

cladking

There's also a 1975 no-S dime which is rare.

lincolnSence

I just sold a no S cent in PCGS 68 for $3k. Hope this helps. Mintage unknown.

michael

ttt

the mintage for the no s 1990 cent stands at 200 or a little less


sincerely michael

hope some can answrr my questions!!!!!!

richbeat

There's also a 1968S dime without mint mark. All I can tell you is what the red book says. Both the 1970 and 1983 no S dimes are listed at $500. The estimate for the 1970 is 2,200. No estimate given on the 1983. The 1971 no S nickel is listed at $675, estimated mintage is 1,655. Estimated mintage on the 1990 no S cent is 3,555. Values listed are $3,000 for the regular proof set and $3,200 for the prestige set.

MadMarty

I sold a PR67DCAM 1990-NoS last summer for $2600.

CarlWohlforth

The 1971 No S Jefferson is neat. Here is a link of a thread about them: No S Nickel

'71 is a tough year for Deep Cameo Jeffersons with an S. I have a No S with a Deep Cameo obverse but the reverse is a plain cameo so the coin graded cameo.

Steve

Regarding the "no S" Lincoln cent of 1990. I believe it is more valuable in a PCGS slab than if it remains with the other proofs in the Proof set. Key to this is that it grades AT LEAST PR68DCAM by PCGS. I believe anyone who would buy the proof set as is will discount it for the possibility that it won't achieve a high enough grade. It is a very rare coin with only about 200 having been reported. The 3,555 number that the Red Book shows is from what the US Mint estimated COULD have been achieved from the faulty die. This is a real "keeper" in the Lincoln series because it is an error coin that is obvious to anyone who knows that the "S" appears on ALL Lincoln proof cents since 1968.

cladking

The 1990 no-S cent appears in both the regular and pestige proof sets.

There are also no-S 40% silver '76 type 1 and type 2 Ikes. There are several known no-S clad '76 Ikes.
There are rumors that not all of the No-S halfs and dollars were destroyed as Breen reported.

The 40% Ikes were produced in Philly, hence the no-S. Two each of these are reported per Wexler, Crawford, and Flynn.

There are a handful of SMS coins of various denominations which probably fulfill all the definitions of proof.

michael

wow thanks all great replies!!


keep them coming!

sincerely michael

gmarguli

The premium placed on the "No S" Prestige set is odd. You can pop open these sets and replace any coin at will.

I would guess that a 1975 "No S" set will be coming on the market soon. The bid has been moving up. Probably someone trying to pump up the market for this one.

There were supposedly 3 "No S" Bicentennial sets (25¢, 50¢, $1) minted without the mintmark. Since two of the Ikes survived, I assume the others did as well. I believe wondercoin owns one of these Ikes.

pontiacinf

MICHAEL my 71-no s pr68cameo is the star of my sets...love that coin...and price on those is in the 1k range

DHeath

Wow, these guys are quick. And I thought I was the only one looking for the 90 cent.

Steve

DHeath, with all due respect, there is absolutely NO verification from any source, including the US Mint, that 3,555 no "S" Lincoln cents were issued in 1990. The mint reported that the average die life of their proof cents in 1990 was approximately 3,700 coins. They also stated that they had found 145 proof sets that did not have the "S" mint mark once they became aware of the error. They distroyed those sets. It is very highly unlikely that over 3,000 of these sets exist since only about 200-300 have been identified by dealers over the past twelve years. Some may be duplicates. Of course, there is always the theory that lots of people bought the sets back in 1990 and just "put them away". Sometime in the future, these sets will be discovered and come on the market. There may be a few of these out there, but I believe no more than 200 to 300 were ever made. As the years go by and no new major hoard comes to market, this coin's value will continue to rise, IMHO. As far as I am aware, as of now, PCGS has certified 33 and NGC has certified 0. I don't think any of the other major services have slabbed this error coin. Steve

michael

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