Too many to track. Check out the list of sets being added daily to the registry, and you'll see a ton of work is being done by BJ and company. The only sets not seeming to jump onto the registry are the New Player sets. It seems that the existing individual player sets are getting modified and separated into basic and master sets before new sets are being added. My 1974 Reds set hit the registry after only a 3-4 week delay.
Why do we need BASIC & MASTER sets? Why not just 1 set?
The 1969T Baseball is my example. The set composition information states that there are 664 cards in the BASIC SET, but 688 cards are listed and there are 695 cards in the MASTER SET. I don't see a need for a MASTER SET for only 7 additional cards.
I don't really see a need for 2 sets for the same year for any amount of cards. If PSA has made the effort to distinquish, in print on their label, the difference between 2 cards of the same player, and we, as collectors, are putting together sets of their graded cards only, then the error cards ARE PART OF THE SET. Why waste valuable database space?
Where do you see 688 cards listed for the '69 Topps Basic Set? I thought maybe I was missing something and checked it out. There are only 664 cards in the basic set - the master set has an additional 31 variation cards. I don't see 688 anywhere.
I completely disagree with you about the need for a separate master set. Are you telling me that everyone out there who has a 1990 Topps set (book value of about $20) but does not have the Frank Thomas Error Card (Book value of $800 last time I checked) has an incomplete set?
Using the '69 Topps Baseball set as an example, if a collector wants to have a complete set of graded cards from this year, why should he have to spend the extra money for these rare cards? The 31 variations are very rare (compared to the corrected versions) and would cost 1000s of dollars extra (assuming collector is collecting PSA 8 cards). Some collectors are just not interested in the error/variation cards and shouldn't be punished for it.
688 cards are the number of cards actually listed under the Basic Set. I am sure that is the 664 plus White Letter Variations. I have downloaded the list into Access, so I know how many cards are actually listed. The Master Set has 695 cards. Why another set for only 7 additional cards?
Again, if PSA is going to list the error variations, then no one will have a "complete" set (for registry purposes) unless they have 1 of every card listed for that set.
If you don't have every card listed for that particular set, then how can you have the complete set?
I just feel that if a variation of a card is listed, you need that card to have the complete set. I am not going to tell anyone that I have the complete 1969T set until I have all 695 cards.
You are correct. PSA has removed the WL variations from the basic set. They were there 3 weeks ago. Now that I think about it, I believe I did read a post that PSA was going to remove all variations from the basic sets. I guess they got around to doing it. Now if they would just not use all caps.
It's bad when you get old and your memory goes. I just remembered that I downloaded the Price Guide instead of the Composition List when I did the '69s. The reason that I downloaded the price guide was because the Set Composition was in all Caps. It's all coming back to me now.
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New Sets being added to the registry
The 1969T Baseball is my example. The set composition information states that there are 664 cards in the BASIC SET, but 688 cards are listed and there are 695 cards in the MASTER SET. I don't see a need for a MASTER SET for only 7 additional cards.
I don't really see a need for 2 sets for the same year for any amount of cards. If PSA has made the effort to distinquish, in print on their label, the difference between 2 cards of the same player, and we, as collectors, are putting together sets of their graded cards only, then the error cards ARE PART OF THE SET. Why waste valuable database space?
Where do you see 688 cards listed for the '69 Topps Basic Set? I thought maybe I was missing something and checked it out. There are only 664 cards in the basic set - the master set has an additional 31 variation cards. I don't see 688 anywhere.
I completely disagree with you about the need for a separate master set. Are you telling me that everyone out there who has a 1990 Topps set (book value of about $20) but does not have the Frank Thomas Error Card (Book value of $800 last time I checked) has an incomplete set?
Using the '69 Topps Baseball set as an example, if a collector wants to have a complete set of graded cards from this year, why should he have to spend the extra money for these rare cards? The 31 variations are very rare (compared to the corrected versions) and would cost 1000s of dollars extra (assuming collector is collecting PSA 8 cards). Some collectors are just not interested in the error/variation cards and shouldn't be punished for it.
JEB.
Again, if PSA is going to list the error variations, then no one will have a "complete" set (for registry purposes) unless they have 1 of every card listed for that set.
If you don't have every card listed for that particular set, then how can you have the complete set?
I just feel that if a variation of a card is listed, you need that card to have the complete set. I am not going to tell anyone that I have the complete 1969T set until I have all 695 cards.
Ok, I just went to the 1969 basic set and only counted 664 cards, maybe when you downloaded it into access it added a few more lines.