If we were all in the same room, would we say the same things?

Ogden · February 17, 2003 5:45AM

There sure are a lots of discussions in this forum, but if we were all in the same room together and the same questions came up, would we all say exactly what we would have written here?

Just curious

Ogden

JML · February 17, 2003 5:47AM

Clearly the members whose profile is public would say the same. Why do some members hide their profile?

littlewicher · February 17, 2003 5:48AM

I sure would.

TomB · February 17, 2003 5:49AM

I try to keep two things in mind before I post-

1)Would I say this in person?
2)Would I or could I defend this argument or point at a future date?

I'm certain I do not always succeed, however, I try.

TheNumish · February 17, 2003 5:55AM

Mostly I'd same the same things but have to admit some of my stupid comments I'd keep to myself if we were talking in person.

CThomas · February 17, 2003 5:57AM

just checking to see if my profile is hidden!

truthteller · February 17, 2003 5:58AM

I definitely would say the same thing and have so in the past in person, face to face. But always keep an open door near me, just in case.

TRUTH

mbbiker · February 17, 2003 5:59AM

Yeah i think i would say the same things as i do here, the only problem is if we were all in the same room i couldn't hit edit if i needed to.

stman · February 17, 2003 6:03AM

I would say more. I don't like blasting someone through a keyboard.

It doesn't have the full effect.

Petescorner · February 17, 2003 6:05AM

Many people are not very good at expressing their true thoughts through text. Little things like sarcasm and lighthearted comments can seem like full scale assault when you're reading them rather than listening to them. Perhaps the forum could expand its use of smileys?

stujoe · February 17, 2003 6:08AM

I'd say a lot more. I think these boards are a little too 'permanent' in some respects and I leave some stuff unwritten.

ksteelheader · February 17, 2003 6:09AM

I don't know if my profile is hidden or not. Someone check and if it is, let me know how to change it.
As far as saying the same thing, hell yes!!
Thanks, Ken

lava · February 17, 2003 6:10AM

I agree with Petescorner, well said. The one notable exception that comes to mind is bear. Is bear diplomatic or what? He is diplomatic, and yet makes effective points, and sometimes makes the rest of us feel humbled with his written communication skills. The rest of us poor slobs will just have to keep trying. By the way, that "room" that we are all gathering in, is aswimmer in there too? I shouldn't have said that -- sorry bear and the rest of you cubs.

rkfish · February 17, 2003 6:12AM

yes

dwood · February 17, 2003 6:15AM

Most definitely yes.

JoyofCollecting · February 17, 2003 6:19AM

I never can seem to get the emoticons to work. I would like to use them more often. When I select the emotion from the menu bar I just get gobbly-gook. Any hints or suggestions?

braddick · February 17, 2003 6:19AM

-Join us for lunch during the Long Beach coin show, on Thursday, the 27th, 11:30- next door at the Hyatt and put this theory to the test.

clw54 · February 17, 2003 6:22AM

In person, I probably wouldn't say that "toning" is an ingenious way of marketing tarnished coins.

RegistryCoin · February 17, 2003 6:48AM

I'd use less alliteration, and more puns, more swear words, less nicey-nicey, but the concepts would be similar.

flaminio · February 17, 2003 6:54AM

There is nothing I've ever written in any online forum that I would not feel comfortable saying face-to-face. It's a personal "reality check" for me -- I ask myself that before hitting the "send" button. I write many messages that never get sent.

jbsteven · February 17, 2003 6:54AM

yes, done deal!

DHeath · February 17, 2003 6:54AM

I think most of us would. I know I would. I think in truth that many of us would be friends despite our disagreements. It is harder online because the issues are so one-dimensional. I am rarely in full agreement on every issue with all of my friends locally. Here, that seems more relevant than in normal situations.

BTW - I never learn anything from people I agree fully with.

They require no intellectual exercise.

cladking · February 17, 2003 7:10AM

I'm with TomB. I don't want to write anything I can't defend later or to contradict myself.
No doubt I don't always succeed.

It's much easier to communicate in person since you can taylor your arguments to the
individual. In a public forum one must not only watch his P's and Q's but also that he
dots his T's and crosses his I's. The best point can be lost if people don't follow the
grammar or you've miss judged their premises. It's tough not seeing the "feedback"
first hand also.

...Are you talkin' to me? I don't see anyone else around here, you must be talkin' to me.

agfox · February 17, 2003 7:22AM

I read somewhere "tell the truth so you don't have to remember so much" or something to that effect.

Other than that, in the same room? I'd probably just sit back and listen like I normally do.

fantasiize · February 17, 2003 7:28AM

I would/do.

gsaguy · February 17, 2003 7:45AM

Yes, and what's a profile. Do I have one, other than the one my wife reminds of all the time...bald, slightly overweight, and don't stand up straight?

GSAGUY

braddick · February 17, 2003 7:48AM

And always sporting an attractive THIN tie.

gemtone65 · February 17, 2003 7:51AM

Julian: there are several good reasons to keep one's profile confidential. First, I can talk about specific coins I like that may still be active in auctions, without fear that someone will locate that coin, say on E-bay, and decide to bid against me. Also, by doing so I am less inhibited about naming names, without apprehension that the person so identified would go out of their way to give me a hard time. In contrast, almost anyone here who is known to the numismatic community has to be very careful what they say here, especially you dealers. (I know, speaking candidly without revealing one's identity involves a significant responsibility not to say anything negative without considerable proof. I try to follow that principle.)

That said, I have corresponded with many of the forum members, done business with them, and even become good friends with them. They know who I am. And, you know who I am also - but not by my forum name. In the past, before you joined us, I mentioned you here as one of my favorite dealers. ( Well, I may even have said you were my favorite, but I don't want you to get a swelled head.) Moreover, most people here are not aware of the important roles you have played in upholding the integrity of the numismatic community. So, it's great to have you with us.

gsaguy · February 17, 2003 7:55AM

Wait a minute gemtone65, you told me I was your favorite dealer!

Oh wait, I remember, that was when we were sitting down to talk about pricing on some toned dollars.

GSAGUY

coinguy1 · February 17, 2003 7:56AM

I would, though I'd actually joke around a bit more in person, where I wouldn't have to worry about people misinterpreting mere words, like they might on the forum.

I like the rule of thumb a few others have mentioned - if I wouldn't say it in person, I shouldn't say it on the forum. I try to abide by that and am comfortable in believing that I have done so.

barberlover · February 17, 2003 8:02AM

Do on to others... is a very corny saying, but the longer i live, the more i believe it to be true.

Android · February 17, 2003 8:03AM

I'm probably a little more vocal in person than I am here. So many things I want to say here are abridged due to my mind moving far faster than I can type.

Andy

maddox · February 17, 2003 8:04AM

Without a doubt my opinions would be the same. I would be a little more animated and a LOT more sarcastic and poetic in my responces. Pounding out a responce on a keyboard is not as fun as a "in your face".

I enjoy personal debates, especially when I learn something

lathmach · February 17, 2003 8:50AM

There'd be a lot more cursing and swearing.
Especially when the flatulently endowed released a little gas for emphasis.

Ray

Bear · February 17, 2003 8:56AM

This thread reminds me of an old bear tale. Keep you mouth shut and be thought a fool,

open your mouth and be proven a fool.

fcloud · February 17, 2003 9:01AM

Yes. I would answer the same way for the most part. I would be more apt to say alot more in person.

Fairlaneman · February 17, 2003 9:02AM

Probably would listen for awhile and then if something constructive could be added the mouth would open and spew forth.

Wow it would be cool having a bunch of Classic and Modern collectors together though. Surely interesting collecting desires would be debated.

Ken

Clankeye · February 17, 2003 9:10AM

<< <i>BTW - I never learn anything from people I agree fully with. They require no intellectual exercise. >>

DHeath-- reminds me of a line from a Paul Newman movie. He said:

Seems to me if two partners always agree... one of 'em ain't necessary!

Yeah, if you were in a room with me, you'd get the same old Clank.

wingedliberty · February 17, 2003 9:18AM

Yes I would and have, as I've come in contact with many members in person at shows.

Brian.

kaleidoscopic · February 17, 2003 9:18AM

My replies would be about the same. It takes too damn long to type, spellcheck, etc. Kscope

gemtone65 · February 17, 2003 9:24AM

Gsaguy: what I said on each occasion was true -- I met you after I made my original remarks! (I tried to attach a "wink" emotion but didn't know how.)

crito · February 17, 2003 9:29AM

If we were all in the same room, would we say the same things?

No, I don't think so. In person, you have to weigh the benefits of free speech against the cost of a knuckle sandwich

KlectorKid · February 17, 2003 9:38AM

I wouldnt. I would be asking questions galore the ones that I dont find necessary to post on here because they are a bit stupid.

DHeath · February 17, 2003 9:59AM

Clank, I love it, and will remember it when I change my tagline.

Dog97 · February 17, 2003 10:22PM

I would say the same things but with the added bonus of being able to actually smack some of you upside your pointy heads.

LucyBop · February 17, 2003 10:28PM

<< <i>actually smack some of you upside your pointy heads. >>

Bring it on you little Poodle!

Steve27 · February 17, 2003 10:44PM

The answer for everyone is NO. The anonymity which this medium provides causes people to behave differently than they would in person; the same is true for phone calls.

TomB · February 18, 2003 3:23AM

Speak for yourself, Steve, not me.

greghansen · February 18, 2003 3:34AM

Well, I'm with Steve on this one. I like the question though. It's really not about our 'honesty' but rather about human nature. People more easily disagree with the 'herd mentality', and disagree with less civility, when they are not in a face to face situation.

I smiled to myself when I saw this thread title, because it reminds me a question I hear other lawyers ask a lot during jury selection. The question goes, "Can you promise to be fair to both sides?" Setting aside the issue that no decent lawyer wants a 'fair jury' (we all want one predisposed to our side), I've not yet heard a prospective juror get this question wrong....I take that back...there was one guy who wanted to be excused but the Judge wouldn't let him. So first chance he gets, when asked this question, he volunteered he couldn't be fair to EITHER side. He got excused.

MadMonk · February 18, 2003 3:41AM

I'd always same the same thing.

fantasiize · February 18, 2003 3:47AM

I'm with TomB.

Some folks stay in the "self awareness" phase, others get to "self esteem", yet others (the lucky ones) achieve (or attempt to achieve) "self actualization".

If we were all in the same room, would we say the same things?

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