Sellers are using the registry to sell graded sets.

koby · February 11, 2003 10:44AM

I have recently notice some interesting things while looking through ebay listings. There are a good number of sellers on ebay selling completely graded sets or sets with the majority of cards graded. The registry has been up and running for little over a year, so I imagine these collector have only in the last year assembled the majority of their sets.

I find it interesting that many of these guys are mentioning their PSA Registry ranking in their ebay ads. This a a great idea, and I would do the same if I were selling a large set that ranked high on the registry.

Just a few observations while I was thinking about another post about whether PSA graded sets make good investments. Perhaps any one of these guys can tell you whether their sets turned out to be good investments or at least short-term investments.

Completed 1963 set

Partial 1967 set

Completed 55 All-American

Basilone · February 11, 2003 11:19AM

Interesting..for the 1967 set...they write the following in their eBay auction:

"We have recently added it to the PSA Set Registry for the purposes of selling it, under the name "Stantons Sixty-Seven Set" (10th finest currently)"

I guess technically there is nothing wrong with it...if a unknown private collector did the same thing most would not have a problem, but to state their motive seems to go against the spirit of the registry.

John

crazysc · February 11, 2003 12:29PM

Seems it's not much different that stating the population of a card - just like someone saying "this is one of only 3 PSA 9s and no 10s" the sellers are stating "this is the third nicest set known out of 40 registered."

JeffVN · February 11, 2003 11:15PM

I don't have a problem with a reference to the PSA Set Registry in an E-Bay auction. I find it helpful, not to mention that PSA has already verified the Cert. numbers of all of the listed cards. If the seller also includes scans on the Registry, you can look at the various individual cards on the registry.

LuxuryWines · February 12, 2003 12:43AM

I have mentioned the PSA Set registry and provided links to my sets in 2 EBAY auctions.

Personally I think this is like giving the registry free advertising as most people buying graded cards off of EBAY are probably not registry members or have porbably never visited this site.

It also allows me to show scans of each and every card so the buyer can make a more informed decsion about the overall quality of the set.....

To date I have heard no complaints from members or anyone else about me doing this....

theBobs · February 12, 2003 1:46AM

I think the thing that PSA would want to avoid is a dealer placing their entire inventory on the registry.

But then, what dealer would actually bother to do that?

Fabfrank · February 12, 2003 1:59AM

I think some sellers to it to give their set a sense of pedigree. It infers that a Registered set is better than one that's not registered. Thanks for pointing out the 55 All- America set. I was thinking of doing it. This gives me another option.

waitilltheytrytosell · February 12, 2003 2:00AM

The title is - Sellers are using the registry to sell graded sets. and that isn't the case here. The seller is using Ebay to sell their set and mentioning the fact that it is listed on the registry. There is nothing wrong with doing this. In fact, any seller with any common sense would use the registry status of the set to add an air of legitimacy to themselves and their cards. The seller, whether a dealer or collector, should be commended for possibly introducing people to the PSA set registry for the first time. If a seller uses the registry to list cards for sale along with prices, shipping information, contact and paypal info, etc. then it is improper use of the registry.

rbeaton · February 12, 2003 2:15AM

So, then is Cameocards' 1971 trade & sell set - 13th Current Finest Set improper use of the registry??

Robert

JeffVN · February 12, 2003 2:16AM

I disagree that such a posting would be an "improper use of the registry." That is exactly what the Buy, Sell and Trade - Sports Forum is sopposed to be used for.

I do agree that such a sales-oriented post IS improper on the PSA Set Registry Forum or the Sports Cards & Memorabilia Forum.

Wabittwax · February 12, 2003 3:26AM

I always use a link in my auctions on Ebay (under wabittwax and fivestarcollectibles) but I only sell singles graded cards and I want the people that buy them to know that they can start a set under the registry. The more people making sets, the better. And also that person might be a return customer in the future if they start building a set. The registry helps me out by expanding the card market so I give it free advertising.

Virtualizard · February 12, 2003 9:13AM

Here is PSA's stated policy on this (taken from the "rules" link on the Set Registry Site ):

"Buying and Selling Policy

The PSA Set Registry is to be used to list collections of cards and is not to be used to sell cards. Listing a card(s) with the intent to sell it and/or pricing a card(s) in the registry will not be accepted. The set registry is self-policing. Should you see a infraction of this policy, please report it to setregistry@collectors.com"

Tipem · February 12, 2003 10:46AM

I think that stating a sets registry position is a good idea,both for broadening the scope of the registry and allowing buyers to assess the value of the set.While the value is in the eye of the collector,I do think that a PSA set holds more value than one not registered in that all the cards have been verified and cataloged.Scans of the cards are a bonus as well.I always check out sets,partial or complete, that are listed as sets on the registry.I wonder how many more collectors have been exposed and are active on the registry due to E-Bays listings.

Vic

koby · February 12, 2003 1:01PM

<< <i>I do agree that such a sales-oriented post IS improper on the PSA Set Registry Forum or the Sports Cards & Memorabilia Forum. >>

The ebay listings are not mine. I wish I owned one of those sets.

I have no problem at all with mentioning the registry ranking in the ebay auctions. It is beneficial for both the seller who adds some legitimacy to their sets and the buyer who can have a better idea regarding the breakdown of the set.

The purpose of the post was not to commend or criticize the sellers, but to follow up on the other post about whether PSA sets make good investments. I thought it would be interesting to follow these three sets and compare them with the SMR prices.

calleocho · February 12, 2003 2:11PM

another one

and another one

and yet another one

its becoming popular

Basilone · February 12, 2003 10:19PM

Sorry guys..the 1967 set was in direct conflict with the following set registry policy:

"The PSA Set Registry is to be used to list collections of cards and is not to be used to sell cards. Listing a card(s) with the intent to sell it and/or pricing a card(s) in the registry will not be accepted."

This is what was written in the auction description:

"We have recently added it to the PSA Set Registry for the purposes of selling it, under the name "Stantons Sixty-Seven Set" (10th finest currently). "

rules are rules......

John

jimrupprecht · February 13, 2003 1:03AM

That 1954 Red Heart set is sweet.

I am surprised to see it on eBay though... I think it would do better at a traditional auction house.

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Looking for PSA 8/9 or mint raw 1950 Callahan HOF cards

Basilone · February 13, 2003 1:05AM

It may have a higher bid at an auction house....but the seller is interested in the net proceeds to him...not the 25-30% cut the auction house would of received.

John

gcalex · February 13, 2003 1:34AM

Why is this something anyone would care about? Who is possibly hurt?

Basilone · February 13, 2003 1:43AM

Ask PSA...they developed the policy. (probably has something to do with other companies making money off their site and them (PSA) not getting a piece of the proceeds)

John

Sellers are using the registry to sell graded sets.

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