Toned ASE's coming back from PCGS this week

FC57Coins · February 11, 2003 8:18AM

The 2001 is MS66, the 2002 is MS68. If the first one was anything but an ASE it would be definitely a candidate for AT - but guess the big boys know best!

Frank

FC57Coins · February 11, 2003 8:41AM

No smarta$$ remarks about toning on these???

BSqr · February 11, 2003 8:54AM

how did they tone so quickly?

FC57Coins · February 11, 2003 8:55AM

Beats me - I bought them like this and on a whim decided to get them certified - and voila!

MadMarty · February 11, 2003 8:55AM

In the oven at 400 degrees...

FC57Coins · February 11, 2003 8:56AM

<< <i>In the oven at 400 degrees...

>>

Or maybe Pushkin's cat had something to do with it

MrKelso · February 11, 2003 8:57AM

Well I like em.

BSqr · February 11, 2003 9:01AM

I was just wondering what kind of environmental conditions they were exposed to, how they were stored, etc.... I wouldn't mind trying to instantiate massive toning live that just as a test.

FC57Coins · February 11, 2003 9:04AM

Don't know Bsqr - I do know that since these are pure silver they are subject to more rapid toning, but you may just wind up with a bunch of black gems as well - It's a mystery I guess!

Frank

greghansen · February 11, 2003 9:04AM

Frankly, I'm suprised and perhaps a little disappointed that PCGS is saying that the 'market has accepted' this extent of toning for a 1 & 2 year old coin...

gmarguli · February 11, 2003 9:05AM

These things are pure silver. They will tone EXTREMELY fast. Finding gold toned ones that have only been "exposed" for a few weeks is common.

BSqr · February 11, 2003 9:06AM

thanks. maybe I'll buy a roll and do some sperimentin

TheNumish · February 11, 2003 10:03AM

Just for fun I bought 100 of the silver eagle boxes, put silver eagles in them and placed them in different places in my house. Put some in the attic, under the bed, under the kitchen sink etc. etc. I even put some in my garage where the kitty litter is. I figure in a year if I remember where they all are it'll be interesting to see what happens. If I don't like the way they tone I'll just dip them and sell them to the local bullion guy.

I don't know if anyone has ever seen how nice 1971 Canadian Dollars tone. I always wondered what would happen if you put other coins in those boxes. How much of it is the box and how much of it is the way the coin was made. Has anyone ever tried? Hmmmmmmmm, I'll have to try that one next if I ever get around to it.

airplanenut · February 11, 2003 10:29AM

I have a smartass comment

WHy did YOU get the rightful grades? Mine got a nasty 63, then NGC bagged it for no good reason

It now resides in a flip with me, it's sister, and 2 other gorgeously toned eagles... wait for my digicam to get pictures of the rest...

Jeremy... BTW... I'd say 67 for this one, as would StuJoe's grading poll, as would most people who have seen it in person

Fairlaneman · February 11, 2003 11:15AM

Did someone say a 1971 Canadian Dollar ?

Have a couple of 72's that have killer color also.

Ken

stman · February 11, 2003 11:28AM

Frank, nothing against your coins, but even though they are pure silver and they tone fast I just don't buy it.

Just my opinion that means nothing. They may tone fast but they sure are coming out of the woodwork toning fast. It's funny, I have quite a few from years ago that don't have this..... but that's right I didn't put them somewhere to do it like some of these I see.

robertpr · February 11, 2003 12:17PM

Those coins are pure fake'n'bake and this proves even more so than the random bodybagging that PCGS doesn't know what they're talking about, providing of course that Frank is telling the truth and PCGS did actually give them the green light. I would love to see them inside a PCGS holder, then sold to Heritage or some other prominant auctioneer where the world will get to see them.

robertpr · February 11, 2003 12:20PM

P.S. in both images it's apparant that the side of the coin shown on the right is the one that was laying on the cookie sheet or whatever when the coin was placed in the oven.

gmarguli · February 11, 2003 12:22PM

Did someone say a 1971 Canadian Dollar ?

Have a couple of 72's that have killer color also.

You can get one slabbed by PCGS for free this quarter if you are a club member.

braddick · February 11, 2003 2:39PM

As long as we're sharing:

FC57Coins: You know there is a Registry that is dieing to add those two coins. . .

(PM me when you tired of them- if you ever do!!)

agfox · February 11, 2003 9:05PM

Until last year I had never seen a toned SAE, now they seem to be in slabs everywhere.

Did I just miss them before, or is this truly a new development?

nwcs · February 11, 2003 9:23PM

Remember, PURE silver reacts very rapidly with its environment and differently from coin silver. That is the reason for their fast reaction and hues. What it's made me think of, though, is the toning issue as it relates to silver eagles. Because they are so rapidly toned through air transfer the premium for toned ones will probably be lower than for other coin series like Morgans. Mainly because anyone can get these coins to tone and we'll probably have more naturally toned gem SAEs in the future because of it. And they are individually cheap when new so there is no effective barrier to entry for those who want to tone them up over a year or two.

FC57Coins · February 11, 2003 9:48PM

<< <i>Those coins are pure fake'n'bake and this proves even more so than the random bodybagging that PCGS doesn't know what they're talking about, providing of course that Frank is telling the truth and PCGS did actually give them the green light. >>

Robert! You hurt my heart man!

- Why would I tell you guys that they were graded if they weren't!

I haven't gotten them back from PCGS yet, but here is the submission information. And you know that I'll be more than glad to take a pic of them

PCGS Order Status for Invoice # 9003377

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE
1 90051664 1967 5C SMS MS66
2 90051665 1967 50C SMS MS67
3 90051666 1968-D 50C MS65
4 90051667 1996-P 50C MS66
5 90051668 Eagle S$1 2001 MS66 <------------------------------------This one
6 90051669 Eagle S$1 2002 MS68 <----------------------------------- And this one (Note the dates are the same as on the coins!

Date Received: 01/17/2003
Date Shipped: 02/11/2003

clevegreg · February 11, 2003 9:54PM

I couldn't resist

baccaruda · February 11, 2003 10:41PM

frank,

one of my ASEs toned very similarly to that first one. so in my very limited toning experience, that one is real.

MacCoin · February 11, 2003 10:55PM

I got a 1st strick ASE last year 02 it came in Feb. so I put it in a south side window to get a like sun. it did tan a beautiful gold color. I'll leave it there another year to see what happens to it. I also left a 2000 pr Kennedy right next to it the half hasn't toned at all.

braddick · February 12, 2003 9:39AM

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<< <i>Those coins are pure fake'n'bake and this proves even more so than the random bodybagging that PCGS doesn't know what they're talking about, providing of course that Frank is telling the truth and PCGS did actually give them the green light. >>

Robert! You hurt my heart man!

- Why would I tell you guys that they were graded if they weren't! I haven't gotten them back from PCGS yet, but here is the submission information. And you know that I'll be more than glad to take a pic of them

PCGS Order Status for Invoice # 9003377 LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY GRADE 1 90051664 1967 5C SMS MS66 2 90051665 1967 50C SMS MS67 3 90051666 1968-D 50C MS65 4 90051667 1996-P 50C MS66 5 90051668 Eagle S$1 2001 MS66 <------------------------------------This one 6 90051669 Eagle S$1 2002 MS68 <----------------------------------- And this one (Note the dates are the same as on the coins!

Date Received: 01/17/2003 Date Shipped: 02/11/2003 >>

Frank and I just said "DONE DEAL" on these two beauties!! Expect them in a toned Registry soon.

Toned ASE's coming back from PCGS this week

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